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Whither football?

Discussion in 'Football, Baseball, and Hockey' started by dba, Apr 12, 2016.

  1. Nemo

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    The skill of wrapping up a player and then tackling him
    has been replaced by the mentality that a hard hit targeted
    for a vulnerable body part is the way to play football.

    I remember when the most skilled players were the defensive
    players who had to bring someone down that weighed 50 more
    pounds using only skill and finesse. Just ask Lem Barney.
     
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    Lance Armstrong's next failed drug test will be his first..... just saying
     
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    Wait a minute, you aren't comparing French urine collectors with NFL urine collectors ?
     
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    Yeah, who won the damn war anyway!
     
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    I played football in high school, so the future of the game is an interesting question for me; thanks for bringing it up, dba.

    I can say that, anecdotally, I know several parents who, if not actively steering their sons away from football, are at least doing nothing to encourage playing the game. I think more of the children I know play soccer than what I remember when I was a kid. My wife and I were watching a football game recently, and musing about whether our sons might play the game (they are very young yet); we decided we'd just as soon they didn't.

    I think helmets hurt more than they help. Okay, they can protect you from lacerations or from "cauliflower ear".... But the jarring impact of a big hit -- I can say this from experience -- is there regardless of whether you are wearing a helmet or not. Helmets also have this "anonymizing" effect, where the guys on the other team look less like people and more like storm troopers, encouraging greater violence. And without helmets, only the insane would initiate hits with their heads....

    So where will the game go? It's almost impossible to imagine it disappearing in the decades to come, but it's also getting harder all the time to see how it won't undergo some type of significant change. As roscoe said:

    I can't imagine why the CFL would be any different than the NFL on this issue. If we hear less from the CFL, it must be because the CFL is so much lower profile.

    Interesting! I think I agree with you: some type of "warrior stuff" is necessary -- it's just part of being men/boys. The thing with football is that vicious contact is not, I would argue, essential to the game. After all, we can play "touch" football. (I'm not saying NFL/CFL need to become "touch" leagues -- that would be preposterous -- I'm just saying you can score touchdowns and field goals without physical collisions.) Whereas boxing is so obviously what it is: two guys punching the hell out of each other. Boxing -- or any combat sport -- is essentially violent, and we've always known this; we don't need a bunch of neurologists to write a report before we can understand that Muhammad Ali got "punch drunk".

    So if anything, I think boxing (combat sports) may have less issues than with football, because boxing is so "up front" about its violence. You can take it or leave it, but you really can't remove the violence from boxing without banning it entirely. Violence is not so integral to football; and yet, if violence was somehow legislated out of the game, how many of its fans would continue to watch?
     
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    The future = Robot Football.
     
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    Get ready for the NRFL.
     
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    No robot anything. Every day, I get the feeling I might have to become John Connor and fight the machines.

    Once this thing really gets rolling, I can see a Dystopian future right around the corner. It starts off with Roombas and assembly line welders, and before you know it, we have robot police and robot drivers, then it's only a couple skips and hops until our bodies are placed in the Matrix.

    No thanks. I am not scared of transhumanism, but I do quite like all of my burping, farting, free-will and fragility.
     
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    Maybe lingerie football makes a comeback.
     
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    Too much audience whiplash.
     
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    Not the Cannuckian. He lists things like burping and farting as his enjoyment. :twitch: :O o:

    This people, is our leader...:cry::crying::gettinghanged:
     
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    @roscoe36@roscoe36 has had one in his computer brain for years. No difference. Waste of a perfectly good data chip! :wedgie::banplease:

    (@coynejeremy@coynejeremy Is there any way tag @Rascoe? So he receives it?
     
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