You win Jay. I concede. Ben is the paper DPOY. The Pistons won a paper NBA Championship in 2004 and a paper Eastern Conference Championship in 2005. Ben tried to kill Darko, locked Carlos Arroyo in a basement, and told Delfino if he finished a drive, he would finish him. Darko rules, Larry is incompetent, and the Great Milicic is the paper Human Victory Cigar. Goodluck, Mo.