What happened to Darko?

Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by roscoe36, Nov 11, 2005.

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What is more important?

Poll closed Nov 18, 2005.
  1. Player development deep into the bench

    14.7%
  2. Getting the starters comfortable with the new offense

    29.4%
  3. Who cares, just win baby.

    55.9%
  1. lazyberbs

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    If you consider me part of 'those rumblings'

    so be it. I just mentioned that I was surprised that with Phoenix driving to the basket at will and our players were casually standing around while the Suns were shooting three pointers, I was surprised that our shot blocker was not in for a little try. If he does not get in during situations that put him in a good chance to do well, when will he be used?

    We went back to last year's use of Ben for 44 minutes and only three bigs played all the minutes. I mentioned that if he is to play with the rookies, at least play Dale a little because only the rookies, Darko and Dale did not play.

    If that is the cause for this thread, sorry, but what I said is how I feel. I do not feel that there are not enough choices in the basic premise of this thread. There should be at least one more indicating that the "Team should be given the opportunity to get familiar with the new offense, not just the starters", BUT that winning is still more important. Just not, winning at all costs. Do we give up all else just to keep a streak alive? There must be more than one important thing.


    OK, I'll shut up. You guys don't want to hear that, again. I get it that it makes me less than a true Piston fan. :confused:
  2. roscoe36

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    Not necessarily. Here is the deal.

    I needed to post a topic to get people posting again. Darko is always good. Your post at the D-news last night gave me some mixed feelings. During the early morning some other stuff I read convinced me this was a great topic to fire up.

    To boot, I'm always trying to provide adequate opportunities for basketbills to use the work "lair". As an added bonus, we roused jdmiser from his posting slumber long enough to correct one of his grammatical pet peeves and re-establish his legacy of literary excellence!

    THIS THREAD IS A SUCCESS!!!
  3. Winless Wonders

    Winless Wonders Starter Forum Donor

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    I agree


    Darko was getting decent playing time before the Suns game. Sometimes match ups dictate who is palyed more or less. Also the Suns are McDyess former team so you know he was going to get more minutes to show his stuff.

    Darko is not going to get 20mins or more unless someone gets injured. That is a fact. I am confident once we hit the 10 game mark and the starters are fully into the new offense Darko will get more burn time. The starters are on a mission and are determined to prove they are legit. As long as we are winning and Darko can get 5 to 8 mins here and there he should be happy he is getting that. Delfino did not play the other night until Toronto was down 20. Who cares!! Just Win Now!!!!!:laugh:
  4. 16 Mile

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    I dont think you should worry about Darko not playing last night. Flip is trying to set a tone for the rest of the season, the longer he keeps this winning streak going, the more the other folks start to worry.

    And the way Evans and Arroyo started the 2nd with dumb passes, bad shots, over dribbling, and missed defensive assignments, I have to believe that Flip didnt want to get into an even bigger hole by bringing in Darko. Remember, Ben was having trouble with the pick and roll, imagine how Darko would have done. The only problem I had with Flip was putting Evans back in, in the 2nd half, Delfino should have gotten those minutes.
  5. basketbills

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    jdmiser


    jd please consider this....." The Oxford English Dictionary is the accepted authority on the evolution of the English language over the last millennium. It is an unsurpassed guide to the meaning, history, and pronunciation of over half a million words, both present and past. It traces the usage of words through 2.5 million quotations from a wide range of international English language sources, from classic literature and specialist periodicals to film scripts and cookery books. The OED covers words from across the English-speaking world, from North America to South Africa, from Australia and New Zealand to the Caribbean. It also offers the best in etymological analysis and in listing of variant spellings, and it shows pronunciation using the International Phonetic Alphabet.

    Bennett Clift, the Executive Editor of the OED has publicly noted the increased usage of the word irregardless and its variants and is considering its inclusion in the forthcoming edition of the OED.

    "Due to the increased usage of the word irregardless in various sports forums, particularly those associated with the Detroit Pistons, our committe is considering it inclusion in the next edition of the OED. Another word we will consider is lair which has become a widely accepted variant spelling for the word liar"
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    Darko will be fine...

    The team comes first.....the goal is 2 win the game...And" B-bills"..Did Sura actually play here? Where was I?..my bruddah!
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    LOL, jdmeiser you've been duped...
    The Det News world dictionary clearly states that Irregardless is an acceptable defintion of the common word regardless
    IR abbrv. (irritant, irrational, irresponsible use of the english language)
    Irregardless of how the Ir is used, it fits the mood, meaning and subject matter... now get over it!!!:P
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    Hey Merc

    There is one word, just one word, that will make me change any station..........standpoint!!!!!....
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    I voted for just win games. I think that if that happens, the other two will kinda fall into place.

    Darko will get in a groove sooner or later.
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    Davis Gets Some Time Tonight

    If this continues with Davis getting time then Darko is finished for the year and maybe his career in Detroit unless there is an njury and Flip is forced to play him.

    No way Darko moves ahead of the Double D boys and there is no need to make it the triple D boys unless there is an injury to one or more of the four bigs ahead of Darko.
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    Davis only played over Darko because it was Portland (his former team), and we were getting killed on the boards (Dale's specialty)
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    We were also getting killed in the Phoenix and Portland games by people driving to the basket without getting their shots blocked, Darko's specialty.
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    ...interesting

    I'm thouroughly enjoying the fact that as long as it's not LB keeping YKW on the bench, it's quite acceptable AND explainable....:confused:
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    it hasn't been 82 games yet. flip has also already put darko in for meaningful minutes this early in the season. he's also not feeding the media with mess about him not being ready. flip gets a longer grace period than lb his second year because flip has to get a feel for all of his players. flip is also going deep into the bench and winning too.

    flip's rotations aren't set just yet. evans is playing too much. delfino isn't playing enough. mcdyess is playing too much. these things will all be sorted out by midseason.
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    Sorry, basketbills. I have a good friend (Clive) who works at the OED, and he says that "lair" as a variant spelling of "liar" is DOA.

    The variant spelling they are really hot on is "Larryr." In fact, Clive tells me that the OED was even willing to break its long standing tradition of not publishing pictures in its weighty tomes. They sent a top notch, specialist photographer from Transylvania all the way to New York to photograph the new icon for this word. Everyone was accomodating, and he took many pictures,but when he went back to London the film was blank as was the digital memory card used as backup--a Brownout, so to speak.:confused:

    Everyone was so depressed that all variant spellings have been indefinitely put on hold.
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    Our forum in Taiwan, a coach said about Darko, his BPG in 48 mins is amazing (yes, 48min stats), but, his TO per 48 mins is 5.65. As a C/PF, he doesn't get ball that much, meaning he turns the ball over every 6-8 possesion, it's amazing, too. Maybe, just 4 games, it means nothing, but when you watching him in the game, you can realize that his performances are even worse than his stats. On O, His screens sucks, he haven't moved when he should; on D, he has little purpose to get good position to D, he just want to get blocks. Our friend said as a coach he himself, he considered it not to be sitting on the bench for 3 years caused him have little sense about these things, compare to his gifts, his intellegence on the court only just as a senior high school student. What the meaning of sitting on the bench? Learn from others play. You will know what is the team needed to play, and what is the useless play but only to waste you energy, learn something happened on the court. But as for now, he seems learned nothing.

    Saunders should find this weaknesses of him, so he will only play the weak teams, and D. Davis will play more. Saunders is a good guy, he praise players in the media and players themselves. But it does not mean you are so good in his mind, so we said good bye to Dupree, and Acker suits on the second row of bench, first unit still have to play 40+ mins.

    This is the quote and translation from Telnet:\\ptt.cc

    as guys here can watch more games than us, you guys should can observe him more clear than us, right?:)
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    Excerpts from today's Detroit News:

    The article also noted that Delfino is likely to earn more playing time on the basis of his recent performances, including some opportunities against Paul Pierce on Tuesday.
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    I'm going to assume that was sarcasm, and that you dont understand the difference between little ykw and Flip not playing Darko, so here are some reasons:

    1. It's not personal, Flip is calling Darko names on the Letterman show
    2. Flip has played Darko in meaningful minutes
    3. When Darko hasnt played, the coach said not to read too much into it, because of extended tv timeouts and matchup problems
    4. Flip has said Darko will get more time
    5. Flip aint playin Darvin ahead of Darko
    6. He's 5-0
  19. basketbills

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    I agree with Low

    16 Mile I refute the following statements.


    1. It's not personal, Flip is calling Darko names on the Letterman show

    The Letterman performance was pretty tame. I doubt if Darko even watched it.


    2. Flip has played Darko in meaningful minutes

    Darko had his chances last year but letting the rim block your dunk and acting like you'd rather be on the bench doesn't inspire confidence.

    3. When Darko hasnt played, the coach said not to read too much into it, because of extended tv timeouts and matchup problems

    Larry said all sorts of promising things about Darko's playing time too.
    4. Flip has said Darko will get more time

    And how many times did Larry say that early in the season? I'll dig up the quotes if you don't remember.
    5. Flip aint playin Darvin ahead of Darko

    Of course Flip doesn't have the luxury of a Darvin Ham coming off the bench.

    6. He's 5-0

    You and your crowd %%%%%ed about Darko's playing time despite having a team that went to the NBA Finals. 6-0 to start the season is a long way from that.
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    darko probably doesn't watch letterman but i'm sure he heard of it. probably watched at a later date. even if darko didn't watch it. the comments were still uncalled for and mean

    garbage time is not chances. when in meaningful minutes darko has always come through and played hard. he was rewarded with more bench time. darko didn't like being the human victory cigar and larry knew this that's why he always only played darko during that time. this was all a part of his plan to break darko.

    did that 16 pt, 5 reb, 3 block, 2 assist game inspire any confidence??
    larry is a proven 2 faced liar. flip so far has backed up his words with actions.

    lb said lots of things. this proves lb is a liar not flip. lb also said he was sick.

    i'll take that comment as sarcasm. but i bet you flip would have put delfino on the playoff roster instead of darvin ham.

    6-0 with darko playing meaningful minutes. meaning darko playing doesn't cause us to instantly lose like lb and your crowd would like people to believe.

    you and your crowd are happy to just go to the finals. when me and my crowd are mad that we played tay on the best power forward in the game instead of our young 7 foot shot blocker. if you were so about winning you'd be complaining about darko not playing too. he could have been the difference between winning the finals and just going there.

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