Both Hamilton and Billups became Allstars a few years after they joined the Pistons. More importantly, if you look at Hamilton's numbers in Washington, they are nearly identical to his numbers in Detroit. Same for Billups in Minnesota. I don't hate Stuckey at all. In fact, as a Washington college player, I used to read about him in the paper all the time. I was pretty excited when Joe drafted him. That being said, I don't think Rodney will ever be much more than a 15 and 5 guy. He's not Willie Green, but he ain't Dwaenye Wade either. Back when this forum was caught up in Darko fever, it was really hard to appreciate anything that the kid did, because the second he had a good game, he was the next Moses Malone, and every single mistake he made was blamed on the coach, his team mates, splinters in his butt, being foreign, conspiracies, and on and on and on. The truth is that Darko is a big, athletic center with great shot blocking skills, decent fundamentals, and a huge sense of entitlement. Sometimes he does great things like rip his jersey off Incredible Hulk style after a foul call, or score two points for the opposing team during a jump ball. I feel the same thing is happening with Rodney. He's a decent player. Not bad, not great, but decent. But I swear I can't enjoy his "Darko Moments" of running head first into 3 defenders without reading about the coach, or his selfish team mates, or any number of excuses for the kid. Rodney is strong, fast, and super athletic. It seems like he might need glasses, because sometimes his drives remind me of Mr. Magoo.