[Twitter Drama] CV - Q can work out differences

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  1. roscoe36

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    Pistons' Charlie Villanueva, John Kuester can work out differences


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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    I think CV needs an attitude adjustment if that's the case. It's a question of motivation. For him, maybe having a heart to heart (with Joe maybe) discussing his potential. I think he could be an all star if he can find more grit. He has a feathery touch and he slings daggers from deep. Maybe he doesn't realize how good he could be if he was just as effective at the other end?

    The other scenario is to ride him. The Kuester, Dumars, Big Ben and the rest of the team can get on his butt. Somehow I see that option leaving us with a sulking 6'11" baby sitting on the bench singing paychecks.

    My guess is he's probably just immature and if someone can mentor him or become close friends with him, then maybe he can be urged to step it up.
     
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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    Probably would not kill him to work a little more in the post either.

    Wasn't this guy twitting on how he was going to focus more on defense a couple of months ago? What happened to that.
     
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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    It got hit by a tank.
     
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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    To be fair, he's playing with plantar fasciitis, which limits his mobility, both offensively and defensively. Maybe Keuster has finally realized that since he's here for the long term anyway, sit him and let the younger guys get minutes they need.

    I think it's probably a mistake not to give him ANY minutes, but at this point it's detrimental to the team to give him any more than 10-15 a night, and that they need to level up the guys he's going to be playing with next year (Summers, Daye).
     
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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    Plantar fascistis has not been mentioned by the team or announcers for a couple months now.

    Kuester is not upset with Charlie because he has a sore foot.
     
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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    Paying for offense/no defense players is a mistake that bad GM's routinely make.

    Can't believe Joe fell for it.
     
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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    Hmmm where have I heard this before?

    Big man that doesn't post up enough, takes lots of 3 pointers and is plagued by plantar fascistis.

    The only difference is that the other guy was a dominant defender.... when he wanted to be.
     
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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    According to Joe D, and CV himself, he's been playing through a lot of injuries this season. I think he's got both a bad back and plantar fasciitus - and there's no question in my mind that that's killed his mobility and agility. He was quite mobile before the injuries.

    We won't know until next season whether he can/will play defense.

    My big question is whether he wants to be great - whether he has the heart, or whether he's Darko'ing us.
     
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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    I'm starting to believe more and more that Hammond was the brains behind the Pistons' championship run, and Dumars was the face of it.
     
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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    I'm not sure I would say "quite mobile", but CV certainly was moving better before all of the injuries set in. He had a couple of good short bursts, including a nice block, tonight.
     
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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    He'll play enough defense to get on the court for a few minutes here and there.

    Kuester's issues with Charlie were the same as Skiles' issues with Charlie.

    What I am disappointed in is how little effort he puts in on the offensive end.

    His minutes are down, his scoring is down, his rebounding is down, but his 3 point attempts are at a career high (all stats per 36).

    He's on pace to have his least # of starts and lowest minutes per game of his career. Whereas last year he took 14 shots a game, 3.3 of which were 3s, this year he is taking 10.6 shots per game, 3.6 of which are 3s.

    To give people an idea, he takes a whopping 5.4 threes per 36 minutes. That was Rasheed's rate last year.

    This is almost Antoine Walker territory.

    He takes more 3 pointers per 36, than Ben Gordon our 3 point specialist!

    Looking at his career stats, he was consistently mediocre until his contract year. Now he is back to his play of 2 and 3 years ago.

    And yes, I was thrilled we signed him. I lead the parade to the stockade of shame.
     
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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    This is typical of the organization (JD as leader) of not having the big picture. In a sense, CV is a specialization expert. He has a very defined role. It is selective, intense and jabs hard while spinning around the ring. His mission...put up the points from anywhere on the court. That is all.

    He has no conception and will never understand how overall intensity can push outward toward others. He conceives his role as a duty to fire away and slap away on defense to show less than adequate effects. But, somehow his internal enlightenment rounds itself out by having him say, "am I not showing motion?"

    He will never understand.
     
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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    Villanueva is really looking like Mr. Take The Money And Run. We also know this guy around the league as Tim Thomas.
     
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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    Unfortunately, you're not the only one:
    Bucks GM Hammond has golden touch

    Hammond has overseen a massive overhaul of the Bucks that has radically transformed them from one of the league's worst to a playoff-caliber team.
    Hammond's reclamation project began last summer when he made several major moves. He traded starting forward Richard Jefferson and his hefty contract to San Antonio; did not tender a qualifying offer to free agent Charlie Villanueva, who eventually signed with Central Division rival Detroit, and declined to match Minnesota's free-agent offer to guard Ramon Sessions.
     
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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    This has long been the case. Hammond knew the peripheral talent surrounding the Pistons over the last few years...years that JD should have been incremental changes to the starting core group.

    The latter did not happen and we all know why. The league now is gaining at the expense of JD's lack of foresight. Gordon was a great move if you want to tie up some additional peripheral talent that is not happy as the basic core forefront is still there.

    Players league...and JD stood still with impressive, but stagnating wins.
     
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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    I said that last summer! Even though I didn't originally start it.
     
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    CV31 venting on Twitter . . .

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    Re: Villanueva - Kuester can work out differences

    LMAO. If Charlie played as convincingly as he tweeted...

    I like how the players always know to butter Joe's bread when they insinuate the Coach ain't cutting it.
     

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