Turkoglu to Pistons?

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  1. Walter

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    He did ok in Sac. At a younger age, he quite ably filled in for Peja when he went out with season-ending injury. The Kings led the league that year and folded at WCF.

    He didn't fit in at SAS at all.

    Orlando was the perfect fit for him. With Vince Carter at the 2, Turk won't get the touches he did last year and is likely leaving.

    Mark my words though. VC signing will end up being a downgrade for Orlando.
     
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    Cute stuff. :pound:


    But we both know what you said.


    You made the erroneous statement that Hedo's desired contract would likely put him out of the Pistons range, based on the "average" salary of what he turned down.

    Look familiar?

    Where do you get 10 million to start?

    Oh yea, you've likely caught wind of the rumored 5 year $50 million contract Hedo has been said to want and got caught up in the same "averages" nonsense you were dealing with not 15 posts ago.


    Doctor it up all you want while it's in the past, but we both know you were mistaken across the board.
     
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    My mistake...didn't realize I said 10 million to start.
     
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    Where it starts is all that matters when talking about the current years salary cap.
     
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    Yeah, it wouldn't hurt Cloud to acknowledge that.
     
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    You know, I think something needs to be said here...Darth is a good person for saying Cloud is a good person.
     
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    I've been a member on this forum since September 1, 2005. I've been called a lot of things, but never a "good person".

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    I think it's almost a sure thing that Turk is gone from Orlando after the Carter trade went down.

    I actually don't think that's a good thing for the Magic. Carter is a known loser and cancer and he doesn't do the things for the Magic like Turk do (playmaking, running the pick and roll).
     
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    Not even close. He should never have opted out.
     
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    A very good look at what Turk could bring to the team:
    HOOPSWORLD
     
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    Great assessment Mikhail, thanks for posting it.

    If he hadn't been offered that 4 year extension, it woulld've been the right thing to do to opt out this year. This year, he's 30, fresh off of a very good playoff performance, and is one of the top free agents in this summer's market. Next year, he'd be over 30, in a market that is flooded with premium players. Who knows if Orlando can repeat this year's success anyways. He will land a much bigger contract this year than he can next year.

    However, it was idiotic to turn down that $36M offer.

    PS: 600th post. Yaaaaay. :)
     
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    Again, I think this goes back to what I've said in other threads...perhaps he wants to go where he wants to go and it's not ALL about money. Worst case scenario, he'll net about 8 per if he decides to bounce. 2 MIL a year is a boatload to us, but when you've got 20 MIL in the bank, perspective will allow you to forgo a Mil or two if you (for once in your career) get to choose where you play.

    I still believe guys will make decisions based on where they WANT to be, even if it costs them a couple million. Why do you think we see guys getting ridiculed for opting out and winding up not getting a good a deal as they could have gotten had they stayed where they were? It's not that they all thought they were going to get 40 Mil more if they tested the market...they wanted some level of control based on whether or not a team they wanted to play for came close to their salary intentions.

    They're not hundred-aires all of a sudden getting millions...they're millionaires getting millions. It's like a regular guy being offered 2K more a year to stay at a job he hates versus taking a job he perceives he'll really enjoy. A lot of guys will take the 2K hit if they think they'll be happier at their new job at the end of the day.

    I'm willing to bet Turk has a short list of places he'd like to play and wants to see what they will bring to the discussion.
     
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    Being in a good and winning environment is worth a couple mill per year for a good player. The player gets more exposure, gets voted onto the all-star team when he otherwise wouldn't, and cements his reputation in the minds of fans and other GM's.

    Look at what Ben Gordon's playoff performance did for him. If he would have played for Charlotte this year, he'd be worth less on the open market now.

    So, when players give up a little dough to go to a good situation, they probably aren't giving up any money at all in the long run. They know that subconsciously.
     
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    This is correct. However, for Turk this may be his last significant contract as he's 30 and if he signs a 4-6 year deal he'd be up there in age and the likelihood of him getting a high-priced contract would be quite low.
     
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    I think I read something a few days ago about Fernandez being PO'd about the Blazers going after Turk, but I can't find the link.

    I'd love to see a deal sending Rip or Tay to Portland for Outlaw, Rudy & change :fingerscr
     
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