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  1. pass99

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    Ten times the picking numbers when compared to the bigs that patrol the paint. This is why you pay scouts and have the organizational abilities to quote: The question is not what you look at, but what you see.
     
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    You mean by counting to three, as in one, two, three?
     
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    you might want to check that link.
     
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    Why would we look at height and not purely focus on standing reach for a given player? I guess if you're taller, you can see over the defense a little more? Seems like a minor issue though.

    Comparing the notable guards by standing reach:

    Carter-Williams: 8'5"
    Burke: 8'1.5"
    Curry: 8'1.5"
    McCollum: 8'0.5"
    Siva: 7'9"
    Larkin: 7'5.5"
     
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    Sorry I was skimming an only saw 5"11 and 6"1.

    Reach is considered far more important than height. Exactly why Dwight Howard is so dominant despite having a short neck.
     
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    Right, and standing reach seems like the perfect combination of height and useful wingspan (i.e. adjusts for long or short necks accordingly).
     
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    Might be a possibility of Burke slipping to us. If Orl picks McClemore #2, and New Orleans goes with a big man, AND Sac goes with CJ or MCW.... Burke may be on the board when we pick. It could all be a bunch of posturing but some GM's aren't to keen on his lack of explosive quickness for a guard who's under 6' tall w/o shoes.
     
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    If that happens, KGREG wins the internet for way back at the beginning of the season predicting Burke to fall to us due to concerns with his height.
     
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    Burke was predicted late teens when KGREG was calling it. His stock has climbed a ton since.
     
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    He was pretty good under pressure. Some of those must make threes that he buried showed that he is fearless.

    Seems impossible that we'll get a guy falling to us for the 3rd straight year.

    What I like is that this is the first year in forever that we haven't needed a big man. We can go with pure talent.
     
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    On paper in a combine Trey Burke is awful- he's short and he doesn't have the same speed and quickness of Ty Lawson. But that kid is special, with a burning desire to compete against and beat the best.
     
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    Trey Burke drops on ESPN's draft 'Big Board,' could fall from top 10, Chad Ford says | MLive.com

    We can't always rely on these Bleacher reports as gospel, but the way this is be spun on behalf of Chad Ford we may not need to trade up for Burke as he may be sitting right there at # 8.....to pass on...

     
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    Makes you realize how close the top 10 guys are in terms of talent + athletic ability.

    The only information that came out on Burke were measurements from the combine. If you couldn't tell that he was slightly less athletic than some of the other guys from watching him and them all season, and only found out through the combine, then the differences must be very subtle.

    I'm not sure if I'd want the Pistons to pick him or not. I'm leaning toward yes, but then what would we do with BK besides keep him at shooting guard? Who would we have at SF? Part of this would be answered by knowing which FA we are going to land.

    It would be nice to draft a SG or SF though and fill the other need through FA. That way we'd have top 10 draft picks at every position most likely.
     
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    I like the way you think, but wouldn't a backcourt with Burke and Knight be kind of small?
     
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    It would. Also, I don't think Knight is ideal at SG... but not sure. On the flip side, we'd have a much bigger than usual PF/C combination.

    Size has to matter least at the PG spot. In some cases on offense, being smaller and quicker is a huge advantage. Getting posted up as a guard really doesn't happen very often. Chauncey used to do it to punish small guards, but in the grand scheme of things, it's OK as long as our PG isn't an Early Boykins type.
     

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