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  1. copper

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    I was happy to see Lawrence Frank make timeouts and substitutions that made sense tonight he saw that JJ wasnt playing well and instead of taking out Andre to bring Monroe back in, he took out JJ and this let our twin towers do some damage. The addition of the twin tower lineup also forced Toronto bigs to actually have to account for their men on all offensive rebounding situations and Monroes ability to pass from the high post allowed Andre to flash across the baseline keeping torontos big flattened out in the low post giving Greg more room to operate and drive from the ft line. This alsoforced the guards for toronto to drop in more on greg at the ft line and allowed Singler and Bk to get some open looks. With Torontos guards and pf playing so spaced it gave Andre room to get the 8 offensive boards...its all about the spacing folks. I loved the fact that in the end when we needed the stop, Lawrence Frank had the faith in Andre to sub him in for Monroe to challenge and force Lowry into that circus floater which ended up as the stop that gave Knight the chance for the go ahead and eventual winner. The confidence that this gave Andre I think will be huge in his developement. He looked like a kid on xmas on the sidelines to end the game. He is such an emotional player that he needs those boosts right now to see his confidence bloom and you can see it in his game. Every time he makes a good play...he seems to get that extra oomph in his step. Great step forward by coach,
     
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    I would prefer to see Singler get 27 minutes, and English 28 minutes.
     
  3. Lee356

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    That would be utter non-sense. LoL
     
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  4. Ernie the Slow Adult

    Ernie the Slow Adult All-Star Forum Donor

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    It was awesome seeing Drummond finish out the game last night. I think they should sit him now until the new year just to be prudent and give him a chance to absorb his success. I'd hate for him to be overwhelmed.
     
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    Lee356 All-Star

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    A rotation:

    Start: Knight, Middleton, Daye, Monroe, Drummond

    2nd unit: Stuckey, English, Singleton, JMAX, Kravtsov
     
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    Woody All-Star 1x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    If Frank started using a rotation like that, the next thing he would be starting would be his car.
     
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    Do you say that because the starting unit consists of a guy that sucks (Daye) and a guy that has never played before (Middleton)?

    Or, do you say that because the second unit consists of a guy who has never played before (Kravtsov) and a guy not on our roster (Singleton)?
     
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    Slide Singler into Dayes starting position and Tay into the second unit singleton position and we probably win better than 60% the rest of the way
     
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    Woody All-Star 1x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    I say that because it sucks.

    And copper, if a frog had wings it could fly.
     
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    Singler
     
  11. copper

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    not necessarily... penguins have wings and they are grounded. So you are being very optimistic towards a frog with wings...silly
     
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    You can rotate players until the cows come home. This current roster is not good for a 40% winning percentage any way you slice it. If the Pistons win 30 games this year, I will be surprised.
     
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    Since my son missed the game last night, I watched it a 2nd time with him today. I will describe some stuff toward the end of the game. Knight came up pretty huge, and so did Tay. At 3:30 we were down five. Knight drove in and cut it to 3. Then he tripled to tie it. But more heroics were needed yet, as they went up by 3 a couple more times yet before the end of the game. Knight was getting to the foul line. Tay posted up successfully twice, first on McGuire (sp) and then on Amir. Finally, Knight drove in for the bucket that put up one with 7 seconds to go, and no timeouts left. Knight put some pressure on Lowry as he missed a shot from the left. Game won.

    Also, it was not the rookie Drummond messing up in crunch time, but the slightly more seasoned Monroe. Drummond comes up with a totally improbable steal, moving to his right, covering a lot of ground, and letting his length do the rest - knocking down a well thrown bounce pass then picking it up for the steal. But Monroe shortly after did the cha cha to give it back. Later, Monroe collapsed in when everyone else alread had - forgetting all about Andrea completely alone in the left corner. That put us 3 down again.

    I want to restate what happened on the pass Drummond stole. That was no errant pass. Drummond was nowhere near the play when the pass was released, and the pass was a good crisp bounce pass. The guy is just that quick and knows how to use his length to make him seem even quicker.

    Also a note on Bynum's play. Upon review, its still no good. But I will mention yet another pass from him to Drummond for a dunk. And JJ, yet another minus 10 game. I slow mo'd a lot his sequences. He looks even more insignificant to the plays than ever that way.
     
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    I wish the scam artists running the League Pass offered a slow-mo only package so I could watch the games as they're intended to be seen.
     
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    What's up with jerebko? Is it that his achilles injury decreased his athleticism? He used to get involved more.
     
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    The whole team has played pretty badly most of the season so far. Playing with either Monroe, who had early season troubles shooting and horrible D, or with a rookie in Drummond, solely at a position he is undersized for has gotta make it harder.

    Add to that he played in the Euro qualifiers for Sweden where he is a focal point, then comes back to where he only gets the occasional shot.

    I think he could turn it around if he got minutes at SF. Unfortunately, if Kravtsov continues to sit, Maggette continues to play SF and Tay takes most of the minutes there too, then he won't get a chance.

    My biggest worry is that Maggette's presence and the poor play means JJ becomes trade bait and he goes somewhere else and makes the impact elsewhere we know he can. I like the the way he has been helping the rookies. But surely Maggette is only here for this season.

    A lineup thought:
    Drummond, Monroe, JJ, Singler, BK

    When all playing well, that is a BIG, hustling, fast lineup
     

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