Thoughts on Tony Mitchell?

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  1. linwood

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    The problem with watching scouting videos on YouTube is that, a player may look good and make every shot, but since you can't watch them in frame by frame, it can be hard to accurately judge lateral quickness.

    That being said, if Pizza Guy wants to extend his delivery area to include the 2, I'm all for it.

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    "The Thumb" !! LOL!!! I cracked a laugh really loud there!

    Datome is a Small Forward.

    One might think that after a few years of playing a 6 foot 11 Austin Daye at the SG spot and after a lot of threads about it saying he would be unguardable by other Shooting guards, we would've learned to stop that thought.

    But, there again....
     
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    "A lot of people" sounds like at least 10 considering you can get nearly 20,000 people in the Palace for a game.

    Before we argue that a lot of people believe something, making it potentially valid (like a lot of people used to believe the earth was flat, and so maybe it was) then let's actually identify them.

    Because I am pretty sure most of the Italian basketball league, European basketball, and the NBA thinks he is a forward. But hey, what do they know. They have actually seen him play.

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    I think everyone involved in this discussion is wasting their time; we are in the new, Positionless NBA.


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    I went to Wikipedia first. Pizza Guy is considered a small forward there.
     
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    He's been playing for clueless coaches his entire career.
     
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    I'm going to wait and see what Forbes has to say.

    My guess is that Forbes will say something like: "Positions? What positions? This is the new NBA, and it's a position-less league"
     
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    My guess is that Forbes will say something like: "Singler is a small forward. He played mostly shooting guard for us last year. A lot of people see Datome as a possible shooting guard for us. Just like Singler."
     
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    Lee has long had an obsession with playing guys 6'6"+ at the guard positions. When in reality, most guards in those positions through this league, past and present, have been much closer to 6'0" than 6'6".

    If only basketball was exclusively about size and lateral speed. But there are inconvenient things like skill, experience, vision, attitude, leadership, and luck which seem to mess up being able to judge players based on box scores and physical dimensions, rather than actually watching them play, and crediting what they actually accomplish.
     
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    As a Back-up I can see him playing SG as the lineups will be such hybrids it may take some interpretation as to whom is playing where, and this could change even on defense. Guys like Mitchell, Singler, Smith, KCP, Pizza Guy, Billups, heck most of the team minus Jorts, Jennings, and Drummond can legit claim they are capable of playing 2 positions - 3 in some cases. Now, obviously there will be strengths and weaknesess, and match up considerations, but I would not be suprosed to see Pizza play SG and SF alot. Same with KCP.
     
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    Yeah, one of the worst was Joe Dumars, since he was not 6-6. Right. Micro, sometimes, I think you are just being mean. You know I look at a lot more than size and lateral speed. Gordon certainly had both, but no skill as a guard, for assisting the point guard in getting the ball to the right spot to initialize a play. And defense. Shooting ability. I will be the first to say, despite lack of speed, that Singler can end up as our starting shooting guard if he is the only candidate who can actually nail 3's. And ditto for Datome.
     
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    I think Rascoe was trying to provide some balance to some of your more radical thoughts. You don't believe Will Bynum should even be allowed to wear basketball sneakers. The fact is he was actually one of the few bright spots for the team last season. Sure, he has his deficiencies, but the guy has heart and the guy can ball.
     
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    The big question is this:

    Why would we want to play him at shooting guard when it seems (regarding much of the posts I read the last few months) the only PG in the team is Billups??

    My thought is that Billups, Jennings, Siva and Bynum are point guards.
    Billups though, can play a little Shooting guard.
    Stuckey, who is injured, is a shooting guard (We ALL Know that after 8 years of trying to make him a PG).
    KCP is a Shooting guard.

    It's really weird that some people want KCP to play the SF position and Datome to play the SG position.

    What is it in the DNA of Pistons fans that we always want to change the player's natural positions???
     
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    I'd rather see Jorts at SG than Stuckey.
    ...hell, I'd rather roll with a 4 on 5 lineup than see any more of Rodney Thumbkey.
     
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    I would rather see anyone in any postion than Stuckey with a Pistons jersey if that's the case... I was just stating a point
     
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    As sad as it sounds, I believe that Stuckey's ONLY shot at shot at becoming a decent NBA baller was at PG where he could have used his size to his advantage.
    ...As a SG, he didn't hold any physical advantage over anyone.
     
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    I'd rather slam my own thumb in the car door than play Stuckey.
     
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    Maybe this will help.

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    I thought this thread was about Tony Mitchell...
     
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