Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by Mogilny, Nov 20, 2012.
Teen wolf was a point guard who played almost identically to Will Bynum.
Taking this a step further, if the rules allowed teams to play 1 animal on the court in lieu of a player, would it make sense to take advantage of that rule? The animal would have to conform to all on-court rules (3 in the key, taking charges outside the restricted area, not fouling superstars, etc). Keep in mind that if your animal mauls someone on the other team, they will most likely be kicked out of the game and will serve a season ending suspension.
Giraffe as a shot blocker? Gorilla trained to get loose balls?
I'd have a wolverine come off the bench.
A pissed off male rhino to patrol the paint.
Going back on topic, now that Steve Blake is also out and the Lakers looking to make a move, I wonder if we can somehow be involved in a trade that sends Bynum or Stuckey to LA land. Maybe even Bynum for a first round pick or two.
From now on Will Bynum shall be known as Teen Wolf.
Teen Wolf might be the baddest-ass nickname in the entire NBA!
I like it.
That's why I'd like to see us go after him in the off season. If we have $20M in cap space I think we can sign him and OJ Mayo to $10M/Yr deals. After our 0-8 start we're an above .500 team at 6-5, Singler has a lot to do with that and does Maxiel, but while we're excited about Max's recent productivity, Millsap has been doing this every night for YEARS and can do it as a starter or coming off the bench in limited minutes.
If this trade rolled across the bottom of ESPN I'd be ecstatic
NBA Trade Machine - ESPN
I like Millsap, but he will be looking for a pay day. OJ, I'm not huge on, also, you need to trade for him as he has a two year deal with the Mavs. Who the hell do they want of ours for him? We would be giving up more than we get back.
They are both as bad as each other. In fact, I would argue that Stuckey is better player, talent wise, who is in a bad team for his talents. Team Stuckey with two perimeter players who can shoot, and he would actually be quite useful as a slasher.
Come on man, stop looking at the forest and see the trees.
#1. Devin Harris is an expiring contract. The only use Stuckey has on THIS team is at backup PG, whenever he's in the game at SG , it's a disaster. Devin Harris is 10x's better as a backup PG than Stuckey AND his contract falls off the books.
#2. The 2nd year of Mayo's contract is a player option, with his 20ppg avg and shooting percentages you can pretty much bet the house that he won't exercise that option and use this summer to see his NBA pay day!
#3. Millsap is a steal at $8-$10M/yr. And he's perfect for our system because if the projected starting front court of the future is going to be Monroe and Drummond, then you need a guy who can come in off the bench and produce, not very many guys in the NBA can do that, Millsap has proven that he's one of them.
I like Mayo. He won't change anything by himself but he can play and is right sized for the position he plays.
If it is OK with everyone else I'd like to stay away from investing $$ in any bench players. Milsap is Maxey ++, a bigger undersized PF. Joe might pay him the max for the honor of coming off the Pistons bench.
When I hear the name OJ Mayo, I picture Ben Gordon.
...that's my subconcious mind telling me something.
Gordon is an undersized SG who can't dribble, Mayo is a Shooting Guard who can actually SHOOT! He didn't work in Memphis because he was the 4th option and there simply wasn't enough Basketball to go around after Z-Bo, Gasol, and Gay got theirs....so Memphis (smartly) decided to part ways and go with a defensive minded SG at that position. he didn't work as a guy off the bench. Now in Dallas OJ is getting a chance to be OJ and he's BALLING! His career stats are VERY impressive. He's scoring 20ppg AND he's doing it with outstanding shooting percentages.
I think we're at our best when we have a 3 big rotation like when we were playing Dyess, Ben and Sheed. So I imagine more of a 6th (a la Dyess) starter scenario more than bench player. 3 Bigs playing 32 MPG seems pretty ideal to me.
Playa: Pts/ FGA/ eFG/ Ast/ Tov (per 36)
BenG: 21.4/ 16.5/ .559/ 4.2/ 2.9
OJM: 21.0/ 15.3/ .574/ 3.3/ 2.4
Both of these guys are shooting almost .100 above their recent years' performances and they both look pretty similar on paper.
Whatever the Pistons were trying to do with Ben wasn't working. Since he had really good years before and after, I'm wondering if the problem was really just the Pistons schemes.
I hear what you're saying and it sounds completely logical.
I don't know why but my gut tells me that if OJ went to Detroit, he'd have a good game every 20 games like Ben Gordon did. ...again, just my insticts talkin here.
Yes and No. BenG just came into a situation that couldn't work, #1 he needs to actually PLAY and #2 he needs a really good back court mate to excel, in Detroit he had neither. Had we accepted the idea early on that Rodney Stuckey is an off the bench combo guard, ditched Rip, brought in a legit PG, things may have worked out.
I thought that the only person in the world who thought Millsap was no better than Maxiell was Joe D.
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