Stuckey re-signs for 3 years / $25m

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  1. Brap

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    Jerry Stackhouse wasn't much of a shooter, but he was an all-star as a penetrating SG who got fouled a lot. And Stuckey is a superior ball handler compared to Stackhouse. It's just not true that only guys who can shoot the ball at a high percentage can play SG (or any position for that matter). The real question is how Knight and Stuckey and Monroe and Jerebko and Daye (the core guys going forward beyond this year - potentially) play together.

    On that roster, even assuming Stuckey never becomes a great outside shooter - he sure as hell is a high performing mid-range shooter, penetrator and And-1 player, and he sure as hell is an outstanding ball handler, and tough defender. Daye is a super shooter, and Jerebko looks to me like a guy who will knock down open 3 pt looks - and both of these guys will do a lot of damage rolling to the rim. Both have great handle. Brandon Knight is about as fast and quick as anybody in the league (the NBA Draft Measurements confirm what my eyes tell me there), a super penetrator, a great outside shooter, and he sure seems like a real PG to me. Monroe will likely be a great high post big man - hitting cutters and open long range shooters, as well as having a really nice scoring touch himself. As for offensive rebounding, Monroe and JJ are great at that, and I think Daye at SG will kill defenders on his at that position, as will Stuckey.

    Call me crazy, but I like the possibilities. Just I'm not sure if we'd be better off with a Ray Allen type at SG instead of a Stackhouse type there. If it isn't a big fit, Stuckey could certainly be traded.

    And I love the defensive potential of Knight, Stuckey, Jerebko and Monroe, and even the length of Daye makes him hard to shoot over. Add in the mystery big man we'll draft in 2012, and we could be onto something here.
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    I think it's a stretch to compare Stuckey to Stack.....and I don't think Stuckey is a great mid-range shooter as you mentioned.
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  4. Brap

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    I should have said great scorer - he really is an efficient scoring guard when you take his And-1's into account. As a more full time SG, he should be that much better. I believe we'll see Stuckey blossom in a solid system, with a fine young PG, and with a quality coach.

    Even his critics should acknowledge that Stuckey has played for a messed up team for the last few seasons. That would effect any player, aside, I suppose, for a dominant one-man show like LeBron or Wade.
  5. jayborne

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    Jerry Stackhouse had a defined and recognized skill set and position. We're in year 5 with Stuckey and people can't quite figure it out what he does other than draw contact and abuse small PGs on the drive. But he isn't a PG.
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    Jerry Stackhouse AVERAGED 30 ppg for a season as a Piston.
    To my knowledge, Rodney Stuckey has passed the 30 point mark maybe 3 or 4 times in his career.

    Stackhouse was a pure freaking scorer who could carry an offense on his shoulders.
    Rodney has proven at times that he can be a decent scorer

    ...there's a bit of a difference there.
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    We'll see, I guess. Truth is that Stuckey's never had the chance to be a dedicated SG. Mostly, he's played the point.
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    I knew that was coming.
    Tell me Brap, Who in the heck did Jerry Stackhouse play with?
    ...Michael Curry?
    ...Jud Buechler?
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    That's the thing. He scores off isolation using power. Not likely to be as effective at a position where he won't always have a size advantage. And he isn't much of a threat to hit a jumper in your face.
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    Jud Buechler never had a great coach.
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    Interesting fact (according to Wikipedia) about Jud Buechler:
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  12. Brap

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    Stuckey will destroy just about every other SG on the planet with his speed, and he's as physical as any of them. SG's are going to have a really hard time staying in front of him.

    Besides, he'll be utilizing a ton of pick and rolls.

    I'm not downplaying how good Stackhouse was. He was great. I just think Stuckey can be as good or better.
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    I'd rather have Stuckey and Knight start together and Gordon come off the bench.

    We'll probably start with Stuck/Gordon for a while, but I can't imagine it will last for long.
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    You'd be correct, actually. Justin Rodgers confirmed that the account was Stuckey's, just hours before he took it down. He said on twitter that he'd ask Stuck about that in a few days, after I mentioned it to him.
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    7 footers are a lot more common place now than they were years ago. Every team has at least one 7 footer now. Solid bigs are really no less common than solid guards. And Kwame isn't even close to being a "solid big".

    I'm sure you think that Afflalo deserved twice what he was paid though (5/43) since, you know, you believe he's at least twice that player that Stuckey is, like most here.
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    To my knowledge, Stuckey has never attempted more than 14ish FGA per game. Stackhouse AVERAGED 24 field goal attempts per game during the year he scored 30 PPG. Dude was a full blown chucker.
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    Rodney! You're back! We missed you man!
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    But solid bigs are less common than solid guards. And Kwame is a solid big. But he's Kwame Brown so he must be the worst player ever or something since he didn't live up to being the #1 pick. Might be a bit overpaid, but it's a one year deal. He's a decent post defender at least at using his body on a team without any.
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    Kwame can't catch, finish or rebound the ball effectively. I think it's a stretch to call him solid. He's okay at defending big guys in the post, but quick guys will give him fits.
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    Quote from Stuckey in a Detnews article....

    "Whatever position I need to play, I'll play," Stuckey said. "I know I'll play a lot of 2 (shooting guard) this year and also point, so I just need to learn both positions".


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