Shift of power in the East

Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by MSU.Prodigy, Jul 2, 2012.

  1. MSU.Prodigy

    MSU.Prodigy Second Round Draft Pick

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2012
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    10
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kentucky
    While Dumars getting rid of gordon's terrible contract was defintely a step in the right direction, Hawks GM Ferry is making a huge splash by trading Joe Johnson to the nets and Marvin Williams to the Jazz for Devin Harris.
    sources: Brooklyn Nets agree to trade with Atlanta Hawks for Joe Johnson, sources say - ESPN New York
    Atlanta Hawks trade Marvin Williams to Utah Jazz for Devin Harris, according to sources - ESPN

    What does this mean for us? Well, the 2012 Playoff Picture was:
    1. Bulls
    2. Heat
    3. Pacers
    4. Celtics
    5. Hawks
    6. Magic
    7. Knicks
    8. 76ers

    The East has been in recent years much more open than the west. Every single team is going through some major off-season adjustments with the exception of the heat (wade and bosh are going through rest/surgery and missing the olympics, but they should be fine when the RS starts).

    Bulls - Rose ACL out for year, Deng's wrist, Asik might be lost
    Pacers - Very likely to lose Hibbert due to Portland giving him max contract
    Celtics - Most likley losing Allen and with the loss of many rotational players and continued decline of garnett/pierce
    Hawks - Out of the Playoff picture almost certainly w/o johnson/williams, but setting up with enough caproom for both paul and howard - Holyyyy
    Magic - Howard basically screwed them 6 ways with being indecisive. They might get some nice potential and a nice pick, but I don't think any team is going to give the magic a ridiculous offer for a 1 year rental of the league's most childish/indecisive/help i'm getting blackmailed player
    Knicks - Lin uncertain, Melo and Stat clearly declining more rapidly than the knicks expected, JR opting out, etc.
    76ers - no signficant changes, might move up a bit might stay the same - coin-toss situation

    So let's recap the playoff picture for 2013

    1. Heat
    2-8. WIDE OPEN

    As long as Drummond isn't Darko, we have an EXCELLENT chance of making the playoffs.

    This is the list of teams in the East and how I think they will fare in the 2012-2013 season:

    1.Hawks - breaking up their core means they're gonna suck this coming season, but the massive cap flexibility they will have at the end of next season is going to be clutch
    2. Celtics - they get older, w/no siginifcant upgrades besides rondo improving and jeff green coming back - still a playoff team, but 0 chance of ship
    3. Bobcats - nice to have MKG, but still dumpster team for next 3-4 years
    4. Bulls - rose is gone for this season, I don't care what they do, they're pretty much irrelevant until next season
    5. Cavs - Draft picks really confuse me, even so Irving and co. will have to spend 3-4 years at the minimum to become relevant
    6. Pistons - I'm too biased, but hopefully stuckey, monroe, and knight all make strides in their game and drummond steps it up - if joe can make some more moves :D
    7. Pacers - I see them losing Hibbert as a very likely scenario, but even then I still see them as a Play-off team 2nd round-exit yet again
    8. Heat - Repeat champs unless something suprising happens
    9. Bucks - I see them getting marginally better with the jennings-ellis core getting more time playing with each other. But I don't see them as anything better than a 7/8th seed at best possible case.
    10. Nets - Deron Williams, Joe johnson, Gerald Wallace, Brook Lopez sounds alright on paper - have them as a possible playoff seed
    11. Knicks - too much drama - will still be relevant, but 1st/2nd round exit guaranteed
    12. Magic- they're done for 3-4 years unless something magical happens - corny jokes +100
    13. 76ers - no dramatic off-season changes means they'll get a little better, but noting amazing happening here
    14. Raptors - the prospect of nash signing here and instantly making the raptors a playoff contender with the addition of the lituanian kid plus trading away calderon - I don't know if the raptors have had this much excitement since Vinsanity
    15. Wizards - picking up beal is nice and getting okafor ariza to pair up with nene - wizards playoff team real soon

    Possible playoff teams (besides Heat)
    Celtics
    Bulls
    Pistons
    Pacers
    Bucks
    Nets
    Knicks
    76ers
    Raptors*(if nash signs)
    Magic**(If howard stays and plays like he normally does, but there's no incentive...)
    8 slots, 11 teams, We have more than a "shot" this season. Honestly it's pretty wide open right now. I feel pretty darn good about being a pistons fan into the future.

    Feel free to give me feedback guys, also I'm been wanting to start a video blog so If you guys like what I write I might be motivated to get on that :D
     
    roscoe36, basketbills, max and 2 others like this.
  2. Laimbrane

    Laimbrane All-Star Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2008
    Messages:
    1,200
    Likes Received:
    855
    I don't think Drummond will have any reasonable impact this year other than on the defensive end - he's at least two years away from positively contributing and while he'll probably have as negative an impact on the team this year as Knight did last year, the Pistons still have to play him because, you know, he's the future of the franchise and all that.

    That being said, I've already stated think the team is about a .500 team right now, with or without Drummond. Give them team chemistry from the offseason and a season's improvement from Knight and Monroe, and you'll see them in contention.
     
  3. Nemo

    Nemo Fantasy-Football Snub Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2006
    Messages:
    12,306
    Likes Received:
    1,502
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Lake Elmo
    Nice write-up. Last season, the Pistons were 10th in the east..........10 games out of a playoff spot.

    This year....I see us 11th, but only 6-7 games away from the playoffs.
     
    pass99 likes this.
  4. BillLaimbeer

    BillLaimbeer All-Star 4x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2005
    Messages:
    15,610
    Likes Received:
    3,593
    Location:
    Michigan
    If the season started today, I would say the Pistons are just outside the playoff picture. If Detroit adds one impactful free agent and perhaps rids itself of some extraneous pieces (Prince, Villenueva, etc.), I think they slide into the playoffs. Whether making the playoffs in 2013 is important or not, that is another question.
     
    pass99 likes this.
  5. TaS

    TaS All-Star Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    17,639
    Likes Received:
    2,974
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Chicaaago
    I don't see any reason why we won't clip along at a near .500 pace. The coach got through his first year, has implemented his fundamentals, and has the respect of the players.
     
  6. Slippy

    Slippy All-Star Administrator Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2005
    Messages:
    4,398
    Likes Received:
    830
    Location:
    Oakland, CA
    I believe that any meaningful rise will hinge on our 3 spot. If Daye or Middleton can play almost as good as Prince, we'll have a wicked team. If joe can swing a deal to bring in a good 3, we'll be good. English looks like afflalo with a shot giving us a good 3 guard rotation if English can establish himself as a bone fide player. Unless this Ukrainian dude is a revelation, we will still be utilizing CV which is a waste of money, minutes and practice space. This going to be exciting. I'm hoping BK shuts the critics up and develops a passing game.
     
  7. BallDon'tLie

    BallDon'tLie All-Star 3x Fantasy Champion

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2005
    Messages:
    6,808
    Likes Received:
    2,937
    Location:
    Denver, CO
    1. Miami
    2. Chicago (If Rose is back)
    3. Jersey (IF Howard & D-Williams sign today)
    4. Philly
    5. Milwaukee
    6. Indy
    7. Cleveland
    8. Washington
    9. Boston
    10. Toronto
    11. Detroit
    12. Orlando
    13. ATL
    14. Charlotte
     
  8. alexa032

    alexa032 Team Captain

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2007
    Messages:
    783
    Likes Received:
    257
    Nets will get Deron back in the fold, which means only a trade will net them Dwight now with JJ's contract (he's paid more than Lebron!) also coming on the books for them once the trade is finalized. The Magic will milk them for all they're worth; Orlando's GM is no Otis Smith, and Billy King is horrible. They might be good, or they might be the new Knicks. Guess we'll see.
     
  9. del

    del Bench Warmer Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2009
    Messages:
    448
    Likes Received:
    235
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Geneva
    Think he will - anticipating as big a rise in play as we saw from Monroe this past season.

    Going on the latter part of the season once Frank had time to get his game plan going and the players had time together, we will be in the playoffs next year.

    I expect to see large improvements not just from BK, but from JJ also - and continued, but slower than last season, improvement from Monroe. Think Stuck will also play more like he did in the latter season, benifiting from BKs improved game and ongoing solid coaching.
     
  10. BillLaimbeer

    BillLaimbeer All-Star 4x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2005
    Messages:
    15,610
    Likes Received:
    3,593
    Location:
    Michigan
    How about the Knicks? They are looking to add Nash:

    Report: Knicks In Lead For Nash « NBA.com | Hang Time Blog
     
  11. BillLaimbeer

    BillLaimbeer All-Star 4x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2005
    Messages:
    15,610
    Likes Received:
    3,593
    Location:
    Michigan

Share This Page