Samb & Acker tracker

Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by mercury, Oct 5, 2006.

  1. mikhail1973

    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2007
    Messages:
    9,495
    Likes Received:
    390
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kiev - Farmington Hills, MI - Santa Clara, CA
    We'll have to see him play against NBA players before we can conclude anything. Hopefully he'll be a solid reserve.
  2. TaS

    TaS All-Star Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    17,566
    Likes Received:
    2,895
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Chicaaago
    Even though I am pretty high on him from watching the Greek team, I will admit that I don't know how that will translate to the NBA.

    It is really hard to guess. We just need to give him a chance and see how he does.
  3. Delfino Delivers

    Delfino Delivers Bench Warmer

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2006
    Messages:
    1,406
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Michigan's Thumb
    Can't be worse then the back up PG we are currently using.
  4. TaS

    TaS All-Star Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    17,566
    Likes Received:
    2,895
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Chicaaago
    That is a good way to look at it.

    Acker appears to be slightly better than Tony Delk right now (who we should have resigned for cheap), with more upside given his age.
  5. roscoe36

    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2005
    Messages:
    20,438
    Likes Received:
    2,301
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dagobah
  6. TaS

    TaS All-Star Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    17,566
    Likes Received:
    2,895
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Chicaaago
    Nice steal, but let's sign up the dude who blocked him!

    Acker went with the left hand lay-up shielded by the rim and still got swatted.
  7. d to the p ROCK

    d to the p ROCK Second Round Draft Pick

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2007
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    nash too!
  8. webz

    webz All-Star Snub Administrator 2x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    3,424
    Likes Received:
    718
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    and you can still check out some of my acker vids from the euroleague. i've got 4 of them. 2 are from early in the season, 2 are from the playoffs so to speak.

    YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

    and don't forget the greek goddesses...
  9. roscoe36

    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2005
    Messages:
    20,438
    Likes Received:
    2,301
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dagobah
  10. KGREG

    KGREG All-Star

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    4,853
    Likes Received:
    786
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Saginaw, Michigan
    Gotta like Ack's development. Looks real confident in Greece too. I don't believe that he's any better than Delfino, but I believe he'll fight harder than Delfino. Not a knock on Delfino's hustle, but to say that this team is/was complacent would be the understatement of the century.
  11. TaS

    TaS All-Star Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    17,566
    Likes Received:
    2,895
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Chicaaago
    That guy was only 6'4"??? Wow.

    Seriously, let's sign him up.
  12. roscoe36

    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2005
    Messages:
    20,438
    Likes Received:
    2,301
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dagobah
    He makes good money in Greece and doesn't really sound all that keen to play in the NBA.
  13. Tally

    Tally First Round Draft Pick

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2005
    Messages:
    212
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    The Big Bend
    Ackers arms look a mile long. He doesn't rebound...he snatches.
  14. buddahfan

    buddahfan Retired from Forum

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    5,361
    Likes Received:
    1
  15. roscoe36

    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2005
    Messages:
    20,438
    Likes Received:
    2,301
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dagobah
    Not sure if this is good news or bad news. I think it is good.

    Alex Acker's Olympiacos team lost the Greek Championship today. They were beat by Greek powerhouse Panathinaikos in Game 5 of a best of 5 series. Apparently Olympiacos was within 5 with 3 minutes to go but Panathinaikos hit a 3 and closed out the game with free throws.

    Acker had 12 points and Croatian Center Andrija Zizic also had 12 to tie as team high scorers.

    Why is this good? It's my understanding that Alex has a player option for a second year in Greece. If he won the championship, I am sure he would opt out, and possible sign a more lucrative contract with Maccabi Tel-Aviv, who have been very interested in him since he left Detroit, possibly a contract that Detroit could not hope to match.

    Since he lost, his star in Europe tarnishes just a little, and while he is certainly worth more than the $1+ million he is due for his option year, I don't think he has made the leap to a $3+ million dollar a year player, and that works in our favour.

    His agent is Jerome Stanley, who also represents the Sacramento Kings Francisco Garcia. Stanley is a long-time agent and once represented former Boston Celtic (the late) Reggie Lewis.

    Stanley also works in the NFL, representing Keyshawn Johnson amongst others.

    I compiled this from a variety of sources.
  16. mikhail1973

    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2007
    Messages:
    9,495
    Likes Received:
    390
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kiev - Farmington Hills, MI - Santa Clara, CA
    Does this mean we should be able to get Acker for "Delfino's money"? I mean amount wise.
  17. roscoe36

    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2005
    Messages:
    20,438
    Likes Received:
    2,301
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dagobah
    Acker is a one year NBA veteran. That classes him as a Non-Bird Free Agent.

    Detroit retained his rights by tendering him a qualifying offer last season, and I would assume they will do the same this and each future offseason until Acker makes a decision that puts him out of Detroit's reach.

    His qualifying offer amount is $687,456 + $175,000 which is $862,456.

    Alex can take the offer, play out one year in Detroit and then be an NBA Unrestricted Free Agent the next offseason.

    He can decline the qualifying offer, and negotiate a new contract with Detroit (longer than one year, and possibly for more money).

    Alex's agent can fish around for an offer sheet from another NBA team (better deal), which Detroit can match, as long as they have their Mid-Level Exception available (read: they haven't spent it yet).

    If we try to sign Alex straight up without the MLE, we can offer the following.

    Year 1 - $824,947
    Year 2 - $890,943
    Year 3 - $962,218
    Year 4 - $1,039,196
    Year 5 - $1,122,331

    Detroit can only sign a deal for 2 or more years up to 5 in this scenario.

    Now if another team makes an offer, and we have not spent the MLE, Alex stands to make a lot more money because we can use a portion of or all of the MLE to match or he will get it from the team he signed an offer sheet with.

    Alternately, the Pistons may come to terms with Alex on a full or partial MLE deal, no longer than 5 years with a maximum of 8% raises in each successive year of the new contract.

    We need more intel on what is happening behind the scenes in Europe before we can start to project if he will even come back to the NBA, however should he come back, I think we stand the best chance of signing him long term.
  18. mikhail1973

    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2007
    Messages:
    9,495
    Likes Received:
    390
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kiev - Farmington Hills, MI - Santa Clara, CA
    The whole salary cap thing is just too much for my liking. I'm sure I could figure it out if I spent time on it, but I have other more important things to worry about.
    Thanks to Roscoe for doing all research.

    :)
  19. st8ofmind

    st8ofmind Bench Warmer

    Joined:
    May 2, 2007
    Messages:
    1,115
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Ottawa County, Mi
    Wow, so Maxiell almost has Durant Wingspan... Although he actually has shoulders.

    And I guess Acker does have very long arms...


    2005 NBA DRAFT CAMP MEASUREMENTS Name Height Height
    (with shoes) Weight Wingspan Reach

    Acker, Alex 6' 3¾" 6' 4¾" 183.0 7' 0" 8' 6½"

    Maxiell, Jason 6' 5" 6' 6¼" 257.6 7' 3¼" 8' 11"
  20. roscoe36

    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2005
    Messages:
    20,438
    Likes Received:
    2,301
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dagobah
    Alex Acker won’t be returning to his Greek team at Detroit Bad Boys

Share This Page