well lemon, it is true to some degree that there are a lot of people who go to playoff games to be seen, or to impress, or view it as some sort of status thing. i pulled next to a C5 black convertible in the parking lot (since i have a C6 black convertible i figured i'd do him a favor and not have some idiot park next to him), and some dorky looking guy and smokin hot chick came out (and thank you hot chick for adjusting your jeans with your butt right in front of my face as i was in my car)...so yeah, this guy had no chance with this chick but took her for the status of it ... 'look at me i've got a vette and can afford pistons games and look at this trophy on my arm.' and if the guy i'm talking about is on these boards then uh, nevermind what i just said :P i agree with professor actually, it's encouraging in that we outscored them after the initial lapse, and that we made their role players beat us - to their credit they did beat us, but we also didn't defend them very well. williams, walker, and payton going 17 for 27? the only excuse for that is not playing defense. the thing that annoys me the most is when we take a jumpshot and CONCEDE the rebound. you saw against cleveland we had chauncey with 8 boards, rip with 8, etc. if you know you're in a funk, have some guys stay in the paint to try to get the rebound. also, you gotta play delk and LET HIM SHOOT. he's not a bad defender and can certainly handle the likes of payton and williams. if rip can take 22 shots and only make 9, or chauncey take 18 and make 6 or whatever it was, let delk take that many. i'll take my chances with him.