Pistons bench

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  1. mikhail1973

    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

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    Pistons bench seems to be getting rave reviews throughout the country. People notice their contributions. Here's one of the articles: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/marty_burns/01/10/pistons.reserves/

    What I wonder about is the actual utilization of the bench. Sure, on the paper it looks good with starters minutes being down and bench production equaling that of the 2004/05 version that had James/Okur/Corliss. However, most of the minutes and production are coming from the garbage time and even though the bench players can bring that spark and favorable matchups Flip totally refuses to bring them in during the tight games, even when the starters are obviously looking flat, being overmatched, and plain not producing. Flip's inflexibility to go to the bench early in the 3rd quarter was one of the most glaring issues. Unless a starter is in foul trouble, the starting 5 will remain on the court regardless of performance. We have talked about Flip not being able to adjust when an opponent does something that throws a wrench into Pistons system and it was painfully obvious during the last year's series against Cavs when undermanned team was able to throw Flip and Pistons off their game and Flip couldn't make the adjustments. He seems to be walking down the same path again. Also, Joe D. promised to be more hands on, to demand playing time for the youngsters. The promise was that AJ will not have DNP-CD. However, it looks as if Joe has taken the walk down the old path of stepping away as soon as the games begin and it worries me that the ending to this season will be similar to the past two seasons.
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    Too early to tell what's really going on, but from a recent interview I read somewhere, Joe seems to be content with the team for now. That was during the 11-game win streak though.

    On the actual topic: I agree about the blowouts skewing the numbers. In close games, the starters still play upwards of 35 minutes, and Flipper's mindset of going to the staters at the end of games no matter what makes our offense more predictable. The guys aren't being held accountable for their bad play. They've become so complacent because they know they're gonna play no matter what. Flip has a really quick hook for the bench guys, but a really slow one for the starters - that's gonna hurt us in the long run. He just doesn't trust the bench as much as he'd like people to believe. When was the last time a bench guy who played well got rewarded for it again?
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    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

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    At this point, just play the guys who care

    If that's what the plan is, then it's not being followed. The new guys can't challenge veterans for minutes if Flip pretty much guarantees minutes for the starters irregardless of who performs better.
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    Dig this: Flip is so in love with the best starting 5 in the NBA that he doesn't see that there are other players on the team. Wow! What a concept!
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    Flip sure loves his jumpshots. :gun1: It seems every coach we've had since we got Sheed are drunk with love for the starters. :yellowprison:
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    this mentality is going to kick our butts so bad in the playoffs :(
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    Flip believes the hype so much that he forgets that it takes more than five good starters to win a baskeball game and more importantly to win a championship. You need at least 9 good guys and some smarts on when to play them...Anybody can start the game and as long as we don't fall behind by more than 10 points within the first six minutes, then you can insert those so called starters. This especially important to start the 3rd, when you can possibly hold a couple of starters on the bench to come in later as well as be sharper in crunch time...

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