Away Orlando Magic Wednesday, February 05, 2014

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  1. roscoe36

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    @ Orlando Magic

    Wednesday, February 05, 2014 - 8:00 PM Eastern


    Amway Center, Orlando, FL

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    RADIO: 97.1 FM The Ticket

    GO PISTONS!
     
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    Keith Langlois ‏@Keith_Langlois 6m
    Kyle Singler starts for KCP tonight. Could be game to game, Cheeks says. Afflalo has been a handful for KCP

    Keith Langlois ‏@Keith_Langlois 2m
    Stuckey probably still comes in around 6-minute mark & Singler probably moves to small forward then with Drummond or Monroe to the bench.

    Keith Langlois ‏@Keith_Langlois 2m
    Cheeks says he still anticipates KCP will be used off the bench tonight. No Josh Harrellson again (knee), so Jerebko likely to get minutes.

    Cheeks hates KCP now or what? Pulled him out after two minutes last game, stating he couldn't handle Wade...
     
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    KCP quickly gave up 4 points to Wade. Luckily Stuckey stopped the bleeding and only allowed 26 more to keep us close.

    Singler in the starting lineup makes sense... at SF! Singler's offense is only marginally better than KCP's at this point (higher efficiency, but low overall usage still) and his ability to guard shooting guards like Afflalo will be worse.

    Mo Cheeks is afraid of Josh Smith.
     
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    DON'T TAKE MY KCP MINUTES AWAY FROM ME
     
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    Check the time. My local listings say we are not on National TV, and the game is at 7 on Fox Sports Detroit.
     
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    Son of a gun, I missed the first couple minutes. Thanks Lee!
     
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    You know you are bad when the team with the second worst record in the league, has their second unit running your starters off the floor to the tune of 19-8 midway thru the second quarter....no D in this unit
     
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    Half time...49-21....oops that was the Michigan's half time lead over Nebraska.

    The Pistons are down 14, 57-43 at the half after being tied at 26 at the end of one. The Magic are tanking, but will do an about face when a team shows up that plays bad D, has a lot of turnovers and shoots bad outside the paint and at the FT line. So far every Piston that has played has a TO with the exception of KCP, who didn't start and played out there with Bynum for awhile until Mo yanked them both after the Magic went up 4> 32-28....Unfortunately... Jennings, Smith and Singler came back in and the lead ballooned to 45-34 before Smith stopped the Magic run with rare dunk.

    Unless we are tanking, no use losing to this Magic team.
     
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    We have no offence whatsoever. Dribble hand-off after dribble hand-off, standing around, one-on-one... its pretty pathetic.
     
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    I think its nice when we let teams like Orlando and Milwaukee win at their home courts.
    It gives their fans hope that one day they'll be as good as us..........oh, never mind.
     
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    I only hope this was the official first game of the unofficial tank job.... The Pistons did their best to cut into the Magic lead that grew to 20 @85-65 at the 3 minute mark in the 3rd, and even cut it back to 10 in the fourth, but the 2 man game of Josh and Jennings finally ran out of gas and the combo of the O brothers> Oladipo and O'Quinn stepped it into a higher gear and the Magic 10 point lead quickly shot back to 15 and they coasted to the 14 point win that was concidentally the same lead they had at the half and at the end of three. The teams matched each other point for point in the first quarter, third and 4th, scoring 26, 31 and 24, but it was the Pistons second quarter defensive lapse that turned out to be the difference in the game when they were outscored 31-17.

    Too many jump shots by Jennings (5-23) instead of passing to anyone not named Smith was our downfall. Despite Josh and Dre getting 40 points, their bigs seem to out play, out block and out hustle our guys.

    Rookie comparison : Victor Olapido 20-4-3......KCP 0-1-0. It pays to tank and get the higher draft pick I guess....or have a GM that makes the right decision when has a pick from 7-12.....:sorry:

    Free throw shooting....Magic 18-20 (at one time they were 10-10) Pistons 14-23 (Josh Smith 3-9)

    I will point it now.... before someone does>>>Singler -18 and he was in there when the Magic made their big run in the second and when they took it back up to 112-92 in the late 4th quarter meltdown. Can't blame it all on him, but he absorbed the biggest minus.

    Not sure what the issue was with Bynum, but there were some words with Mo and he sat the whole second half and it gave Jennings more time to shoot bricks, which led to fastbreak points on the other end.

    Magic only average 90 points per game, but had field day on our non-existence defense and costly turnovers, scoring 112 points. Remember we are 5-24 when the opponent scores 100 pts

    So the trip to Florida away from the cold weather results in two losses and 2 games back of the 8th spot.
     
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    And the coach finally gets what he has obsessed about for so long, another start for Singler.Lets see how Singler did. He led us in minus for the game at minus 22. He did hit three triples. One where they paid no attention to him. A 2nd and 3rd where they did at least run out at him. But never did they guard Singler as any kind of priority. Singler did have the nice shot fake and made his two free throws. But lets look a bit further. No rebounds. Not one. And instead of Monroe coming in down the stretch, who had done some nice scoring earlier, Monroe sat down the stretch. So Singler, the guy our coach is totally obsessed about, could get more playing time. Because Singler started this one at guard, we had Stuckey and Jennings in at the end. Singler was at the end of the game replacing Monroe.

    Now, lets see, how did the team do with Singler off the floor? Plus 2. And this included that stretch where Bynum was in pretending to be a point guard. With Bynum getting limited to 3 minutes in this one, sorry Singler, can't exactly blame Bynum this time for you being the most minus, by far, Piston in the game.

    And how did that work, starting Singler to guard Afflalo. Afflalo had five points before you could blink. Sure, Singler was not on him, but I do not remember Pope failing to match up in transition with the right guy. Minor point. Orlando scored just shy of 60 in the first half, so in all, we let a very, very poor team score a ton. I got an explanation for that. Singler is too slow, too short, too weak, and lacking much of any real skill, to allow him to succeed in the NBA. You got Singler in there, and everyone else has to do extra, because Singler will not do his part of the work. Play after play, you will note that Singler is watching, not actually involved. And this goes for our offense too, as you might note, Singler had no assists to go with his no rebounds.

    Our best run was with a unit of Jennings, Stuckey, Pope, Smith, and Drums. We were down 20 and quickly got it to ten. The lead was 13 when Singler came back in, for no reason at all since Monroe had had his rest by then. Very soon, game over. All that scrappy defense we were playing evaporated. Just can't do that well as a team when one player can never make a play, or if he does manage to get to a play finds himself happening to be too small and weak to do a thing to help.

    Smith had a pretty good game, lots of inside scoring. (25 points)Drums tore down plenty of bounds, and soored plenty too. (15 /14) Jennings had a nice little doulbe double with a 15 /10 night. Monroe, again, had a pretty decent game going, he was 6-11, but was not allowed back in the game after getting plenty of rest to start the 4th.

    Stuckey was a bit minus, but he scored 14 on decent shooting, and got inside a bit for us. Maybe he tried a bit too much from a bit longer of range than he should have, but he did knock down a triple. In all, not bad. JJ played sparingly, but was plus 3 for the game. Pope, despite having to play along side Bynum for a few minutes and going negative 4 in the first half, was a solid plus 7 for the game as he was a part of our one decent run for the game.

    So again, who is Singler going to blame for this one. Other players around him did fine. When he was off the floor, the team held their own. So why did the team do so bad with you in the game. It does not matter what Singler thinks though. Hey, if someone told me they would play me to go out and hustle, I would hustle all I could for that kind of money. Its Dumars, who has this guy on the team, the owner, for allowing that, and the coach, for playing the guy, who I find fault with.
     
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    Its the guard play. At least now it is coming into focus. It is not Josh. It is not Monroe. It is not just youth. Its the guard play.

    This game is like a repeat of so many other games. Jennings plays at a level of a second tier guard but he is asked to lead the team. Bynum is a third tier guard but he gets major minutes. Pope is not ready. Stuckey is a scorer for the second unit but his game does not fit with the first unit which needs someone to space the floor. But Stuckey plays major minutes with the first unit at shooting guard because there is no one else.

    Wins will be fleeting with the current guard play. The NBA is a lot about guard play these days. It is a shame that the Piston front line cannot get any help. They must be really frustrated.

    Jennings play in the third and fourth quarters stopped the Piston comeback and cost the team the game. Have to say it and not to pile on the kid. But to point him out is to say that he is the main guard. The team's fortunes rely on the point. He doesn't shoot well--hasn't this season. He doesn't finish well more often that not. He doesn't drive and dish. The blocks today at the rim happened because they know he can't go right. His defense is a liability. They just blew by him in the 3rd quarter. The assists he gets virtually any guard could muster. The Pistons need more than someone who is a simple distributor of the ball. Sometimes it is tough to watch. You see the ball passed around the perimeter in the 4th and no one wants to shoot it.

    At this point, Stuckey should start at point guard with Jennings coming off the bench. The kid needs to have pressure taken off him. A serviceable point guard needs to be brought in to try and salvage the season.

    The front line dominated. The front line is not the problem.
     
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    Jennings was 5 for 23 and 2 of 10 from the arc. He was blocked about 4 times at the rim. But let's not blame him only. The coach has limited options with the roster Dumars provided. And then the coach himself has put little motion into the offense to try and get around the guard play and lack of three point shooting. The kid's minutes should be dialed back a bit and he should be allowed to regroup.

    Long term, the guard situation needs to be figured out. The Piston front line is being wasted and if it continues, Monroe could be gone even before the Pistons find out if the big front line can work.
     
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    Singler stunk in this one.
     
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    You can't stop Kyle O'Quinn, you can only hope to contain him.
     
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    The Pistons have lost 17 games after having the lead in the 4th quarter.
    They've lost 9 games when the lead has been at least 5 points. :skull:

    We're on our way to 32 wins........we don't seem to be wavering from a low 30s win total...
    After last night...you get the feeling that something's not right in Pistonland.
     
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    Didn't watch the game but found that KCP's +/- in this game was +7 with 1 rebound 1 pf and "0" in other columns. Is it rear for any basketball player ? I perceived it as he did a great defense job.
     
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    You know, that's seems exactly right but somehow they end up scoring. Or at least offensive rebounding.
     
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    On Offense Pistons run into a juggernaut of Magic players swarming around making it difficult to find an open player.

    On Defense - Magic run up the ball and usually find one of their front court players wide open 3-5 feet from the basket for an easy chip shot in.
     

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