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Discussion in 'March 2017' started by roscoe36, Sep 25, 2016.

  1. BillLaimbeer

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    Drummond got pulled with 3 minutes left. The game was still in reach at that point.
     
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    First, we lose, I am extremely angry. Very happy after a win though. But regardless of my state of mind, after having watched the game a couple of times, I am going to say what I see. Emotions got nothing to do with it.

    Harris is shooting it hot as blazes, and you add in RJ hitting his outside shots, and well, the Pistons jumped all over the Knicks. But our momentum was halted, pretty much single handedly, by Baynes not being able to move. New York simply attacked Baynes, made our D scramble, and found an easy score. And this kind of stuff carries over. Once NY had a bit of life, they stayed in the game and kept giving us problems. Eventually, we had the game in hand - but it would be an easier go if we did not play a backup center who can hardly sniff a bound (he did have two fairly credible rebounds in this game though, which is a bit more than usual - actually was fighting someone for those two at least a little.)

    In contrast, while certainly not always the case, their were stretches of this game where NY just could not operate their O. This sort of stifling D is not possible with a guy like Baynes in. He simply should not ever play. In the league that is, not just for the Pistons.

    Dre did have yet another amazing game, about 20 - 16 (I shy from checking the boxscore, as I am trying not to accidentally see the outcomes of other games - PS, spoiler alerts would be appreciated if you are going to mention an outcome - and many thanks to those who do remember them.)

    The Pistons continue to pay attention of offensive rebounding. Check out that drive by Harris for instance, when he shot the ball, he was going toward the basket, and had his balance intact - and we ended up with points off the miss. On the flip side, while Baynes did get a couple of offensive rebounds, in general, we still have too many plays with Baynes in the game, and with him being relied upon to do the offensive rebounding - when he pretty much just can't. (A couple of times, NY allowed him position right under the hoop - and the ball bounced right too him - but typically Baynes, being so slow, is easily boxed out away from the hoop and has no ability to move, or jump up, to contest for any bound that is not straight down to him.)

    Got to love the regular lobs to Dre for easy buckets.
     
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    Yeah, if Dre isn't leading the NBA in dunks, it is the guards' faults. He is so easy to feed. He must have completed at least 7 alley oops in this one. Maybe 4-5 were dunks and the others layups.

    The one possession where Porzingas had Stanley on him and tried to back him down was pretty funny. It was like he was trying to push a brick wall before he gave up and passed it out. Stanley has really chilled out on offense and has almost completely eliminated the bad shots, the charges, and the bad passes. He looks very patient and aware out there. His defense was always there, so now he gets to stay on the court to show it.
     
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    I know we don't see the same thing out there, but I don't think it is right to blame the guards if Dre can't get open and isn't going hard to the rim.

    His energy is on him. Tonight he played with good energy. Most nights this season, that has been lacking.
     
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    He's only open when they draw the D.
     
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    Baynes was PLUS 7 so the Pistons lead actually increased when he was in the game.
     
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    Great centers have never had a problem getting open enough to get the ball or get a good look up.
     
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    He's open every possession for a post up. But I'm talking about that sweet flying dunk that no other player on the team can do. He's up alone at the 13' mark once they clear the runway for him. The key is that every player on the court has to be aware of that option whem they drive. Morris and Tobias are looking for it now.
     
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    Except for the fact that teams have been increasingly keying on that since we last year.

    If we played a series against the Spurs, I guarantee that Dre would have very few runway dunks.
     
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    The Spurs were not immune to it.
     
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    It looks like Reggie is becoming more healthy. When he is getting a high ball screen now, he is attacking and being more aggressive. This is forcing more help and resulting in alley oops to Dre and kicks for open shots (8 assists vs Knicks).
     
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    Reggie has been good since SVG tweaked the rotations and surprisingly good on defense. The same goes for Dre. Less running hooks and better defense.
     
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    That was a long, long time ago.
     
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    Are you sure that was 2006? :)
     
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    Coulda been '05 when the forum was virgin
     
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    Probably was the 04 finals that he called after the fact, was the final straw of the Detroit News for our fearless leader and we tried to sneak away..... but somebody told him about the new home.
     
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    You can run, but you can't hide...
     
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    You mean free of village/forum idiots? Just kidding :)
     
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    Chicago loses again, they're falling drastically. As for Miami / Indiana matchup, would rather see Miami win, considering Indiana has more of a chance at falling into the same tailspin as the Bulls.
     
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    Go Pistons! Do a little bit more noise this year!
     
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