NBA Prospect Watch: Nick Stauskas

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  1. blueadams

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    1) NBA Draft Express scouting videos are waaay too long to watch.

    2) He's a white SG. Of course idiots are going to point out every single time he got beat on D this season. (*I'm guessing the Harrison twins from UK's defensive matchups won't be broken down quite so extensively, for some reason)

    3) I watched about every game Stauskas played the past two seasons. When he needs to be a great defender, he is. When he needs to carry his team offensively, he does...and he gives all he has left to the other end. As a 3rd or 4th option on an NBA team, he's going to be at least an average defender.

    4) How valuable have Rodney Stuckey's hypothetical defensive abilities been?
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    From NBADraft.net:

    Although he's viewed as more than just a shooter, his lack of overall speed could relegate him into being a one dimensional (spot up threat) pro ... Not the most fluid of athletes. Lack of foot speed and overall quickness will make running defenders off screens to get open more challenging. This also affects his on ball ability to get by athletic defenders, and create shot opportunities ... While his level of foot speed makes him very effective against college athletes, there is concern that he may struggle to find the same success against bigger, stronger, quicker athletes. Has been less effective when matching up against top shelf opposing guards. Lacks physicality. Gets pushed under the basket on drives easily. Has had a few games where he has been completely shut down (0-2 fg, 4 pts vs Duke) ... Struggles on the defensive end against stronger and quicker opponents ... Lack of foot speed hurts defensively ... A good leaper off of 2 feet, but lacks a high level of overall run/jump athleticism and lateral speed ... Body appears to be filled out, so how much stronger his legs and overall body can get are questionable ...
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    #1) From NBADraft.net:
    Could actually challenge LeBron for the top pick in the draft. He's that good. Unlike James, he has proven himself against top level competition. There are 2 franchise type talents in this draft. Milicic has as much potential as any European player ever and will likely have no trouble adapting to the NBA.

    #2) This scouting report is atrocious.
    -Spot-up shooter!? He was the focal point of every defense he went up against this season. He had very, very limited spot-up opportunities. Most of his 3's were pull-ups off the dribble, most highly contested, many off-screens. His ability to get off mid-range J's in isolation off the dribble is also excellent. He's not a dribble drive specialist in the league. But he is good enough in that area to keep defenders honest. And an EXCELLENT passer, esp. on the drive. If he was a Reggie Miller/Rip Hamilton #1 option, not being able to run off screens would be an issue, but he's a 3rd or 4th best scorer on a good team.
    -He's 6-6 205. Great size for an NBA SG. He put on 15lbs his first off-season in a real program last summer. He also improved tremendously as an athlete last summer. He's not maxed out. And he's already big, strong and athletic enough to guard 90% of the starting 2-guards in the league effectively. And he's played his best against top opposing guards!?! Totally off-base. He never even went up against a bigger guard either, let alone struggled against one!!
    -He was hurt in the Duke game. Missed the next game because of it.

    The man is getting such a generalized white man critique its embarrassing.
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    How does Stauskas compare to Kyle Singler?
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    Much better shooter. Stronger, stronger base. Better athlete. Better handle. Much better on the drive. Much better passer. Tougher, scrappier. Clutch.
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    Please compare the two in the categories of Lateral Quickness, Leg On The Wall, and Overall Whiteness.

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    Singler is better at shooting over moving buses. Stauskas is better in the rain.
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    Who would win in a contest of shooting baskets over a bus in the rain?
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    According to some, singler should be driving the bus.
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    That's because he is always taking people to school.
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    The scouting report was also written before the season.

    As far as your last statement goes, the less said about it, the better.

    Frankly, Stauskas reminds me of Jimmer.
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    Fixed it for you.
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    Stauskas looks good to me. kinda like CJ McCollum. Looks like he at least knows how to work change of pace and direction (vs. Knight) and knows how to work angles for passing, driving, etc.
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    I don't want to get into something stupid here, and I'm still early on in my process of evaluating '14 draft talent..

    But if Stauskas and McDermott we're black, they'd be in the discussion with Randle, perhaps even Embid, as the 4th best player in the draft. I'm sure smart league executives know better. But internet mock-draft runners? Perhaps not so much.

    I think Stauskas could guard 2/3rds of the starting SG's in the league. I think McDermott could guard 2/3rds of the starting SF's in the league. There really aren't a ton of dangerous ones..
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    The problem of Stauskas as a Piston pick this year is we already have KCP and Nick doesn't look that much better. He may be better but I think he'll come in with a different set of strengths but not much of an overall net gain. If we could get Stauskas and Anderson or if we had picked Burke/MCW last year he'd be in the running for me.
    I really really like McCollum and the things he and Stauskas bring are things we need so I'm not low on the idea of the kid. And being able to hit shots opens up all kinds of options even if you don't have elite explosiveness. Defensively, he needs to buy into the work needed on that end of the floor. We traded for Jennings for Pete's sake AND he plays. Go figure if players sit because they are a defensive liability.

    I prefer a guy with high skill and not a project with crazy athleticism and little else. Anderson may be on the end of the spectrum but we need a facilitator to make our pieces fit better. I like Anderson's ability to give up the ball to get the team involved. You don't have to 'create' 100% of the time. You have 4 other guys who need to be moving and doing stuff too. That said, I think Nik can bring a lot of skill to the 2.
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    I think those comments belong at one of those cesspit web sites.
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    That's just like your opinion man
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    Its pretty hard to not sound racist when comparing caucasian basketball players and African American basketball players.

    It feels like there is a bit of a scrappy/gym rat/hard worker stigma attached to the white guys.

    But by the same token, the number of guys who come out of college and can actually ball with the big boys, is particularly small. Saying things like Stauskas could guard two thirds of the leagues shooting guards is a stretch and probably a bit disingenuous. I guarantee he would be completely lost in a pin down action against every team in the league, whether he was guarding Klay Thompson or Vernon Macklin.

    I had a look at some of these draft videos, the guy isn't what I would consider a serious athlete or a great defender. And the reality is that we need defense from the guard spots. Jennings just doesn't cut the mustard.

    I personally think Embiid is a garbage pick for the #1. I'd take Jabari/Randle/Wiggins in the top 3 almost everytime.

    Dante Exum's stock is falling, and I think he would be a good take at the 7/8/9 spot. He fills the need for a distributor and he can ball. They have him at 5, but I don't think he stays there.

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