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  1. pass99

    pass99 All-Star Forum Donor

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    Form: Pistons won't let Kentavious Caldwell-Pope arrest interrupt contract talks

    Specifically: Any team with a quality shooter at point guard, but light on perimeter defense, could move much closer to a championship with Caldwell-Pope, and while the Pistons don't have that point guard, they certainly would like to find one. Keeping Caldwell-Pope to criss-cross backcourt defensive matchups, even as he continues to improve as a shooter, eventually could offer an ideal backcourt mix, which the Pistons currently lack.

    This is a combination of back-tracking and then finding a solution from another extraneous source. Pope will only get marginally better. Same with Dre and Jackson. SVG's whole offensive system needs to change.

    In the MIL game, you had two Piston point guards that had their way with everything MIL threw at them.
    The end result: a MIL shooting guard playing his position and a Power Forward that hit the 3 pt. shots. Their Center position (as in Monroe) is not needed for what he brings athletically; just like ours (Dre) brings nothing between the ears and we are still paying for those certain stretch accommodations.

    Lets move on.
     
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  2. dba

    dba All-Star Moderator 2x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    I could get behind KCP if he would just stop running down court on the break at full speed and throwing up off balance threes that he never makes.
     
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    Comment on that article

    After a hot start to the season where Pope was shooting 40% from three, he has regressed back to the mean. In February he shot 33.8% from 3 and in March 30.6%. His eFG% is 48.7% as compared to a career average of 47.9% (league average is 53%). What are teams going to look at, his 3 month stretch of good shooting (Nov, Dec, Jan) or the other 3.5 years of shooting stats? The whole improved shooter line wilts under a little bit of scrutiny.

    His defense has also taken a step back, statistically and by the eye test. Gone are the days of beat writers saying “Pope defends the opponents best player,” “Pope defends the opponents best perimeter player,” Pope defends the opponents best wing,” etc.​
     
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    KCP takes all the desperation shots. He takes a huge percentage of the crunch time shots. He's not trying to protect his shooting percentage. Without reggie driving, we're not getting kick outs and open threes.

    So, we have to jack them up in transition because they are the least guarded.
     
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    Is there a stat for contested vs. uncontested shot? It seems like he's not getting as many open looks lately.
     
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    That is the challenge for EVERY player. As you play better, teams do more research on you. A "book" is developed on what works defending a guy and what doesn't.

    That's probably part of the sophomore slump. Guys know all about what you do and what you cannot.

    Pope is a hard worker (and a hard drinker). He will figure it out.

    Is suspect this is a large part of why Dre and RJ can't just keep lobbing to the rim all game like they could last year.
     
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    And every coach.

    Our 3 man weave with the center screening at the top is super repetitive.
     
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    Sadly we don't have the talent of a Golden State where our guys can just freelance and it looks amazing.

    Please don't make me recount how bad we are.
     
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    If you own your dribble and don't pick it up at the earliest defensive push, then you can improvise.
    And when you can improvise, you are closer to the basket.
    Having a soft touch can make you a lot of money.
    That is why you pay big money for the Middleton, DeRozen, I.T., Butler, etc. types
    And you don't for the likes of Dre, Jackson and Pope.
     
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    I was watching the Spurs play someone recently and they showed a clip from a TO where Pop was telling them to move the ball. He said something to the effect of, 'You can't just dribble all the way into the corner, stop and then pass it to the next guy. That's nothing.'

    'Take 1 or 2 dribbles and either shoot or pass the ball.' (I wonder which option our guys would choose?)

    This is the Pistons problem. They dribble to nowhere and get nothing out of it. This is by design too. That's sick.
     
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    Was it by design last year?

    Was it by design with Turk and Shard?
     
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    I don't know what to think about the possibilty of paying max money to KCP.

    We can be losing a great player that will flourish in other basketball system, or we can be paying max money to a 14 ppg shooting guard.

    The ideal would be paying him for flourish here, but, we need to answer that question to ourselves: Will he improve here?
     
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    Ernie the Slow Adult All-Star Forum Donor

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    What did they win?
     
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    The eastern conference finals.
     
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    Ernie the Slow Adult All-Star Forum Donor

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    The SE division too, but Roscoe doesn't count those things. He's a win it all or nothing guy most of the time.
     
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    Remember when Dre won the ECF?

    One of many amazing playoff runs by the new™ Pistons.
     

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