Linning!!!

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  1. BallDon'tLie

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    I'm ususally a a dude who sees hype and turns the other way but I'm actually digging all of the attention that Jeremy Lin is getting.

    As a fan of NBA basketball, I'm finding it refreshing that the league is actually getting some attention among the sea of NFL meatheads who only want to focus on Payton Manning's neck or who the Carolina Pathers should draft in a couple of months. I'm stoked to flip over to a sports talk radio station and hear people talking about NBA hoops for a change.

    Is all of this attention on Lin over-hyped? ...yes, absolutely.
    But for me, it's better than having to hear/read about Tim Tebow's off season workouts or where Randy Moss might end up.
     
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    @BDL, the Payton talk is just stupid. But the draft stuff must go on. And on and on.
     
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    TaS, don't forget Tebow was the leading rusher often and suddenly the Broncs D returned to their 09 form.
    BDL, I like warfare but only on film. Surely you saw the P51's dealing with the 262's !
     
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    No doubt. Tebow does some things well. He has a very unique style of play.

    With Lin, his style isn't that unique, it's just surprising that it could go unnoticed by his previous employers. He plays like a high turnover version of Steve Nash so far.
     
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    The Lin-ning streak is over. Lin had 9 turnovers (tied for most in the NBA this season) in a 89-58 lost to the Hornets. Lin set a Knicks record for having 6 or more turnovers in 5 straight games.
     
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    8 in the first half! Then he toned it down with 1 in the 2nd half. Still, he led the game in scoring. Every player on the Knicks except one had at least one turnover.
     
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    Perhaps he was trying too hard to get everyone Lin-volved.
     
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    Lindeed.
     
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    Fixed for you. That looks a little more respectable.
     
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    This is not fully up to date, but here is the breakdown of Lin's turnovers per 82games (I'm assuming the ratio is still similar):

    Lin:
    Charges: (5%)
    Bad passes: (44%)
    Ball handling: (51%)
    Penetration: (38%) percentage of shots taken in the paint

    Wade:
    Charges: (15%)
    Bad passes: (42.5%)
    Ball handling: (42.5%)
    Penetration: (36%)

    Knight:
    Charges: (12%)
    Bad passes: (56%)
    Ball handling: (32%)
    Pentration: (26%)

    Stuckey:
    Charges: (17%)
    Bad passes: (57%)
    Ball handling: (26%)
    Pentration- (40%)

    Lin gets in the paint almost as often as Stuckey, yet he commits 1/3rd of the offensive fouls. However, his ball handling turnovers are way more than the other guys in this sample. Lin commits less bad passes on a percentage basis than our guys.

    So, I don't think that Lin should pass less, it may be more an issue of making sure that he anticipates doubles more and that he protects the ball. Stuckey is doing a nice job with the dribbling, but not so much with the passing.
     
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    How come those %#s are > 100% ? If it's just T/Os.
    I get it penetration is a risk factor.
     
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    Only the turnover categories should add up to 100% (the first 3). I just threw the last one in as a separate data point- i.e. how often they are getting in the paint. I figured that should be pretty correlated with offensive fouls.

    As you can see, Knight takes a lot more shots from outside the paint than these other 3. That makes sense since he's probably the best long range shooter.
     
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    How is penetration calculated?
     
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    There's a lot of ins and outs, but I just used the % of shot attempts in the paint with the assumption that it probably has some correlation with where the assists happen.
     
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    So you just made this stat up? LOL. I like AOTG better....
     

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