John hammond gone

Discussion in 'Detroit Pistons General Discussion' started by pistonsfan, Apr 11, 2008.

Page 1 of 3

  1. pistonsfan Member+

    Member Since:
    Oct 21, 2005
    Message Count:
    56
    Likes Received:
    0
    pistonsfan, Apr 11, 2008
    #1
    • Staff / Moderator

    mikhail1973 Super Moderator

    Member Since:
    Mar 23, 2007
    Message Count:
    7,683
    Likes Received:
    36
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kiev - Farmington Hills, MI - Santa Clara, CA
    mikhail1973, Apr 11, 2008
    #2
    • 2 Time Fantasy Champion

    BallDon'tLie Hji

    Member Since:
    Nov 5, 2005
    Message Count:
    5,291
    Likes Received:
    1,205
    Location:
    Denver, CO
    I agree, this is sad news.

    However, on a personal level - this is GREAT news for BallDon'tLie!!!
    Now I will get to sit next to Joe at all future Pistons games! :gossip:
    BallDon'tLie, Apr 11, 2008
    #3
    • Staff / Moderator

    mikhail1973 Super Moderator

    Member Since:
    Mar 23, 2007
    Message Count:
    7,683
    Likes Received:
    36
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kiev - Farmington Hills, MI - Santa Clara, CA
    Joe will be feeling awfully lonely not having Hammond by his side at the games.
    :hoops:
    mikhail1973, Apr 11, 2008
    #4

  5. roscoe36 Jedi Order

    Member Since:
    Jul 5, 2005
    Message Count:
    18,527
    Likes Received:
    589
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dagobah
    WORD!

    I'm not sure this was such a big deal. He would do the pre-game radio show, and I heard him say Juan Dixon had a reputation in the league as a defender, and thought.... UGH.

    What is bad, is that Hammond may try to make runs at Pistons FAs because he has an intimate knowledge of this franchise.
    roscoe36, Apr 11, 2008
    #5
    • 4 Time Fantasy Champion

    BillLaimbeer Contributor

    Member Since:
    Sep 7, 2005
    Message Count:
    11,687
    Likes Received:
    1,008
    Location:
    Michigan
    Or, because he has intimate knowledge of this franchise, he may not make runs at Pistons FAs.
    BillLaimbeer, Apr 11, 2008
    #6

  7. roscoe36 Jedi Order

    Member Since:
    Jul 5, 2005
    Message Count:
    18,527
    Likes Received:
    589
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dagobah
    Right. he might run at guys Joe has been looking at and following.

    The Pistons should be like the mafia. Once you're in, you can never leave the family.
    roscoe36, Apr 11, 2008
    #7
    • Staff / Moderator

    mikhail1973 Super Moderator

    Member Since:
    Mar 23, 2007
    Message Count:
    7,683
    Likes Received:
    36
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kiev - Farmington Hills, MI - Santa Clara, CA
    Or maybe he will be Joe's agent on another team. We already have one in Seattle. That's real mafia for you.
    mikhail1973, Apr 11, 2008
    #8
    • 2 Time Fantasy Champion

    BallDon'tLie Hji

    Member Since:
    Nov 5, 2005
    Message Count:
    5,291
    Likes Received:
    1,205
    Location:
    Denver, CO
    I think Jarvis Hayes would look good in Bucks gear next year!
    BallDon'tLie, Apr 11, 2008
    #9

  10. raxrets Member+

    Member Since:
    Apr 19, 2006
    Message Count:
    2,379
    Likes Received:
    44
    Location:
    tartu
    Ok, guys, who's mafia sent flip here then?
    raxrets, Apr 11, 2008
    #10
    • Staff / Moderator

    mikhail1973 Super Moderator

    Member Since:
    Mar 23, 2007
    Message Count:
    7,683
    Likes Received:
    36
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kiev - Farmington Hills, MI - Santa Clara, CA
    Gotta be Dan Gilbert.
    mikhail1973, Apr 11, 2008
    #11

  12. lpgrl26 Member+

    Member Since:
    May 28, 2006
    Message Count:
    3,999
    Likes Received:
    0
    Classic :pound:
    lpgrl26, Apr 11, 2008
    #12

  13. ahb Member+

    Member Since:
    Feb 19, 2006
    Message Count:
    1,220
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    San Francisco
    You mean the Raptors didn't get him?
    ahb, Apr 11, 2008
    #13
    • Staff / Moderator

    max Forum Mod

    Member Since:
    Aug 15, 2005
    Message Count:
    7,053
    Likes Received:
    138
    Seems a little suspicious how they were talking about this obscure front office position for Hunter next year that did not seem to exist. Then all of a sudden something opens up like this.
    max, Apr 12, 2008
    #14

  15. pass99 Member+

    Member Since:
    Aug 6, 2006
    Message Count:
    2,409
    Likes Received:
    119
    This doesn't surprise me and actually, I think that it lasted longer than expected.

    On one hand, you are left with a number of questions:
    1. How much and with what degree will Hammond impart to his new organization? This is usually known as the Four Balanced Score Card objectives:
      • Financial
      • Customer
      • Business Processes
      • Learning and Growth
    2. Mentoring aspects are important to an organization's stability and while it will take some time for Hammond's approach to filter throughout the organization, it will even out the Piston's advantages. The replacement move for JD will be extremely important for the Pistons.
    Mr. D is at the end of the long line. Ownership, leadership and organizational strategies will more than likely take a new directions. With new a owner (s), possible centralizations decisions may change and this can happen rather quickly.


    Michael Porter, in his books, frame some important strategic process questions (competitive force analysis):
    • Entry of competitors
    • Threat of substitutes
    • Bargaining power of buyers
    • Bargaining power of suppliers
    • Rivalry among the existing players
    All you GM's (meaning the core forum members) who take the easy route of blame linking the sole source (coach), might soon have to start thinking about some other questions.
    pass99, Apr 12, 2008
    #15

  16. raxrets Member+

    Member Since:
    Apr 19, 2006
    Message Count:
    2,379
    Likes Received:
    44
    Location:
    tartu
    We, armchair GM-s, prefer simple answers. Our questions are basically black and white. It is much easier to point towards one character and put all the blame on him instead of taking into considerations complexity of problems.

    Fans "decisions" rely largery on emotions and therefore there isn't much perspective, e.g. Fire coach! . But who will be replacement? Will he be actually better? Why there should be better coach in waiting?
    raxrets, Apr 12, 2008
    #16

  17. Slippy Forum Leader

    Member Since:
    Sep 22, 2005
    Message Count:
    3,915
    Likes Received:
    353
    Location:
    Oakland, CA
    Great post. :)

    What does Milwaukee have to offer that the other organizations didn't.
    Slippy, Apr 12, 2008
    #17

  18. roscoe36 Jedi Order

    Member Since:
    Jul 5, 2005
    Message Count:
    18,527
    Likes Received:
    589
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dagobah
    Excellent investigative reasoning. I hadn't considered this.
    roscoe36, Apr 12, 2008
    #18

  19. KP Member+

    Member Since:
    Sep 2, 2005
    Message Count:
    341
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Metro Detroit
    Anyone ever wonder how much of Joe's genius was really John Hammond's genius?
    KP, Apr 12, 2008
    #19
    • 4 Time Fantasy Champion

    BillLaimbeer Contributor

    Member Since:
    Sep 7, 2005
    Message Count:
    11,687
    Likes Received:
    1,008
    Location:
    Michigan

    My peeps have told me that Lindsey Hunter has been calling all of the shots since '03.
    BillLaimbeer, Apr 12, 2008
    #20
Page 1 of 3

Share This Page