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Iverson and McGrady have retired recently. Do either belong in the HOF?

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  1. linwood

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    According to this list, Iverson should be slotted in at number 3.
     
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    It looks like you added an extra "9" into my post, you sneaky dog.... :llama:
     
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    Where is Stuckey on the list? must have been a clerical error or something.... No way we would spend so much time talking about a player that wasn't a sure fire Hall of Famer.
     
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    That would be "Hall Of Shamer."
     
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    They don't put rookies on the list. Maybe next year...
     
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    I vote him the most likely Piston to be playing oversees next year.


    But yes both AI and T-Mac should make it. well, T-mac may not have the longevity but AI should be a lock.
     
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    Both should be in, yes. The Basketball HOF seems to be thought of as more selective than it actually is. But maybe that's just the fact they take into account international play and college.

    T-Mac gets those same bland cliche criticisms given to players who didn't seem to win proportionately to their talent (lacks the drive, soft, lazy, etc), but I struggle to remember many moments when he didn't perform in the playoffs. In fact, I remember him being statistically one of the best performers in playoff history during that Orlando/Houston stretch. There is something to be said for never getting over that 1st Round hump, but I don't think it should rest completely on McGrady. And I hope it doesn't cloud his reputation so I don't sound crazy reminiscing about the Kobe V. T-Mac debate to my friends kids someday.
     
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    Hopefully AI doesn't have to take a job at the HOF. That would be humiliating.
     
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    Would he have to practice is HOF speech?
     
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    He could just pee on the podium.
     
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    I believe his #'s went up dramatically in the playoffs compared to the regular season.

    Bill Simmons made the point that AI's finals team was better than any team T-Mac played on.


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    You talkin' 'bout practice?
     
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    The Allen Iverson acceptance speech for The HOF is must see viewing.
    I would go as far as to suggest that people have "chat" ready...............
     
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    I went to a Nugs v 76'ers game sometime around 2001-02 when I lived in Denver. The place was absolutely packed (Nugs were horrible.) to see AI. It was like Jesus was coming.
     
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    I once scored 22 pts in a church league game andI'm 5'8"....It took all of the life out of me. For AI to score like he did ,playing 40 minutes a game, was one of the most amazing occurences of me watching over 40 years of sports. I never really appreciated him though until he led the Sixers vs the Lakers in the Finals. He had to have his kind of balls to be the player he was. He was 5'10, 165 soaking wet And the most dangerous player at 6'0" I ever saw! ISIAH WAS GREAT, AI was PURE EVIL!!! LOL

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    FYI, you accidentally double-tapped the 2-button.
     
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    Kevin Johnson was pretty good.
     
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    Not to hijack this thread, but co rookies of the year from 1995-95 also retired last season and the question remains does either of them belong in the HOF?
    Grant Hill, . no NBA titles, but 2 NCAA titles. 7 time NBA all star, 2 x All-American at Duke
    Jason Kidd, one NBA title, 10 x NBA All star, 5 x NBA assist leader, 5 x NBA first team
     
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    Both IN.
    It's the "Basketball" HOF and Grant won in college and killed it in the NBA when not injured.
    J-Kidd is a no brainer to me. I'm not a huge fan of his but there's no question that he should be in.
     
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    Kidd's NBA career numbers give him a 95% chance.

    Hill's NBA numbers give him a 35% chance. Combine that with his college success and he may sneak in.
     
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