I like the Spurs' model for us..

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  1. BallDon'tLie

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    Hire Bill Laimbeer Greg Popovich!
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    Maybe that is Gores plan....wait until Tim Duncan retires before he hires a coach.
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    I am standing by this prediction.

    Once Duncan retires the Spurs are not making the playoffs.
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    I dont know if I want to click on that, what does it say?
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    The opposite.
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    Other than getting extremely lucky in the draft - which they have. Teams tank and get top 3 picks every year but the one year they did it Duncan was in the draft. I also remember the Parker pick - 2nd rounder I believe and a complete crap shoot.

    Other than that what they have been practicing is just simple common sense. They don't sign known defensive liabilities like BG and CV to huge multi-year deals. They don't have failed rookie projects spanning 5 years like Stuckey. They go out and pick players who they think will fit into their system.

    They also picked a good coach and stuck with him. Believe me Popovich would have been fired years ago if he was in Detroit.
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    Those guys down in San Antonio are a 'system' team.
    When one guy goes down or leaves town, Pop simply plugs another guy in without missing a beat.

    Would Danny Green be a starter on any other team in the NBA?
    (besides Detroit)
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    A 43% 3pt shooter who can defend. Yeah, he probably would.

    Boris Diaw on the other hand...
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    C: A. Drummond, *FA/Tr?*, V. Kravtsov
    PF: G. Monroe, J. Jerebko
    SF: K. Singler, K. Middleton
    SG: *FA/Tr?*, B. Knight, K. English
    PG: Burke, *FA/Tr?*

    Burke or McCollum and a FA signing or trade for a starting wing who can shoot from deep and defend his position makes me a happy fan.

    I like Mo's potential to develop one of those points into something that at least somewhat resembles a Tony Parker. I love an all-around developing Drummond down low. I'm really hoping that Monroe can develop that mid-range shot to become more of a Duncan-like threat. Singler and Middleton are at least serviceable at the two or three. Get me an upgrade to Max as our third big. Get me a good veteran point who can help groom our rookie.

    I'd like a squad like this.
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    Singler and Middleton at SF - it's one of the worst SF rotations in league history but I like it.

    Isn't Burke Kemba Walker without the athleticism btw?
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    Can we stop mentioning Duncan and Monroe in the same breath? They just are not that close. A 15ft jumper won't change that.
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    Stat: GM/ TD (per game 2013 season)
    Pts: 16.0/ 17.8
    Reb: 9.6/ 9.9
    Ast: 3.5/ 2.7
    Stl: 1.3/ 0.7
    Blk: 0.7/ 0.7
    TS%: .527/ .554

    They aren't that different. Duncan is just in the playoffs and Monroe played for a terrible team.

    Duncan has to be the most similar comparison for Monroe in the league.
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    Senior Citizen Duncan and Young Gun Moose may have very similar numbers, but you swap Duncan with Moose on the current Spurs team and Miami would sweep the Finals (assuming Spurs would even get past the Grizzlies). Duncan's resolve and concentration in these games is amazing to watch. Moose would be spending half the game screaming "and-one" to the refs.

    Also, comparing apples to apples (GM year 3 vs TD year 3):
    Pts: 16.0/23.2
    Reb: 9.6/12.4
    Ast: 3.5/3.2
    Stl: 1.3/0.9
    Blk: 0.7/2.2
    TS%: .527/.555

    Also, Moose has a career DRtg of 105 vs Duncan's 95. They are virtually tied for career ORtg at 110. So, even if he can sustain what he's doing now for the rest of his career, all we can say is Monroe can score as well as Duncan even though they're worlds apart on defense. That being said, being able to match Duncan's output even on one side of the court is still quite a feat.

    However, there is no comparison between the two. There just isn't.
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    I wasn't arguing that Monroe is comparable to the greatest PF ever in his prime. Just that he's extremely comparable to the current version.

    The Spurs would be great with Monroe (ignoring the whole learning curve for their system).

    In the first matchup this season, the Pistons won 119-109.

    Here were their statlines:

    Monroe: 26 points, 16 rebs, 5 assists, 2 steals, 1 block
    Duncan: 0 points, 0 rebs, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks


    When we went head to head with them in the rematch, Monroe matched Duncan's point total with 16.
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    This was great.

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