I like the Spurs' model for us..

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  1. blueadams

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    I hadn't taken the time to sit down and watch an entire 48-minute Spurs' post-season game prior to tonight. My head's spinning a little bit now that I have. I love their organizational approach to attacking the "superstar" team; and I believe that it's something we could emulate to some extent.

    The first step would be to hire a top man from their organization as our head coach, Mike Budenholzer (*edit - oops!).

    Evaluating what we have on the current roster..

    A. Drummond. He's someone the Spurs don't really have. And who I'm sure they would love to have (in T. Splitter's role). He's the down-low guy. The alley-oop guy. The put-back guy. The close shot guy. The offensive rebound guy. The primary defensive low-post guy. The banger. The intimidator. We've got something very wonderful and very fitting in Mr. Drummond.

    G. Monroe. I guess he's our Tim Duncan. The high-post man. He sets the high screen. He rolls to the basket. He makes great passes from the high-post, outside and inside. He's a more than adequate secondary low-post defender and rebounder. He's just really GOT TO DEVELOP A MID-RANGE SHOT. HAS TO. HAS TO. HAS TO. Has to. I really hope he can this off-season.

    K. Singler and K. Middleton. These are guys who could potentially have roles in SA's system. 2's and 3's who can stretch the court out with 3-point shooting. Who are high IQ basketballers. Who aren't going to kill you on defense. Really need to work on their D, and continue to improve consistency from outside - - but these are young, useful guys IMO.

    J. Jerebko. I think Jonas'd have a role in SA's system as a stretch-4 specialist off the bench. Your anti-LeBron type. Might not be that level of defender, but he's big, strong, athletic, hard working. Does the small things. High bball IQ. Can shoot a little. Not a worthless player by any means.

    B. Knight. If his shot continues to improve, he could be a bench guard in SA's rotation. Nothing more. But there's nothing wrong with being that.

    J. Calderon. A very, very poor man's Tony Parker. Might be worth keeping around, just to help groom a young player.

    V. Kravtsov. Not convinced that he couldn't become a solid 4th big man off the bench.

    K. English. Haven't seen enough of him to know.

    J. Maxiel. Could do worse as a 3rd big man off the bench, but I'd prefer to replace him with someone that brings more elements to the table.

    W. Bynum. Like his demeanor, but probably not someone who'd have a role in a SA team.

    R. Stuckey. C. Villanueva. Absolutely no place for them on a SA spurs' roster.


    WHAT WE NEED.

    #1) You need that T. Parker-type PG. Someone who can penetrate and dish. Take it to the rim himself. Hit pull-up and outside jumpers. Take care of the ball. Play decent D. Leader. High bball IQ. I've posted plenty about him on the board before - so I'm not going to get too into it here - but I truly believe that C.J. McCollum could be developed into that kind of player.

    #2) More 2's and 3's who can shoot from outside and defend their position. High Bball IQ / extra-effort types. If one of these additions was a real shut-down perimeter defender, it'd be outstanding.

    #3) Probably a third big man who's a better mid-range shooter than Max. Would be good to start thinking about people in case Monroe never develops a mid-range J, in addition to having someone off the bench with one.

    C: A. Drummond, ???, S. Kravtsov
    PF: G. Monroe, J. Jerebko
    SF: ???, K. Middleton
    SG: ???, K. Singler, B. Knight
    PG: C. McCollum/J. Calderon


    Thoughts?
  2. Mogilny

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    Monroe is a mid range shot from being David Lee, not Tim Duncan, so maybe the Golden State model is better for us.
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    How on earth do you expect the Pistons to find a better shooting big man than Maxey?
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    Thoughts? ROTFLMAO!!!! Lets see all we need is the best PF in the history of the NBA and one of the best PG's in the league and Voila!
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    And possibly the best coach in NBA history to go with one of the best top-to-bottom organizations in the league.
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    You are just jealous that you didn't think of the idea.
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    That is the model. We had it and JD wrecked it.
    I don't think any of our players compare to the Purrs least of all Parker, Nobili and Dunker .
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    Manu isn't that special.

    Tony Parker is a fantastic PG. All around he may not be one of the best in the league, but between his insane dribbling skills and basketball IQ, he can shred teams.

    Monroe v Tim Duncan? I hope this is a joke. Monroe needs a huge amount of offense and defense to even sniff Duncan. He is probably one of the top 15 or even 10 players ever.

    The Spurs model won't work because we don't have Mr Pop. We need to carve out our own identity.
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    Guilty!
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    What Duncan is now isn't what Duncan used to be, people.
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    Aside from being a little bet better from the freethrow line, he's pretty much putting up the same stats as he has throughout his career when you adjust for his slight drop in minutes.
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    He's not the same defensively. Less dynamic attacking the rim and getting boards offensively. If Monroe developed a good mid-range J, he'd be Tim Duncan right now.
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    Does anyone think the Spurs would have won anything without Duncan? I mean they would have been a solid team but stuck in limbo like so many others. Good enough to make playoffs but not good enough to win anything.
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    I certainly don't think that they would have won as many 'ships as they have. IMO Tim Duncan is the best ever at his position. Hard to replace a guy like that.
    ...The thing is though, without Timmy, RC Buford (and Popovich) would have simply gone out and got the necessary pieces to make that roster work.

    That organization is THAT good man!
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    What's so impressive about these players besides Duncan and Parker? Does anyone recall how they were able to draft Duncan?
    Spurs 2012-13 Stats | THE OFFICIAL SITE OF THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS

    Too me its so obvious that Duncan has been the one consistant factor all along. Even with the 6 year Finals drought.
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    The spurs model: stability, scouting, and serendipity.

    I'm interested to see how the franchise does after the Duncan era.
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    I think that they'll keep on contending.
    Obviously they'll experience a drop at the PF spot but those guys will continue to draft and sign diamond in the rough guys and international studs that other teams missed on.
    And Pop will put 'em in situations where they can succeed.

    IMO: The Spurs are an easy team to root for.
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    If they can hand the reigns to tiago, that would seal the deal for me.
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    Pop is retiring when Duncan does.
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    I like the Dream Team's model for us.


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