HQ weekly Tiger talk

Discussion in 'Football, Baseball, and Hockey' started by OLD SKOOL HQ, May 15, 2006.

  1. OLD SKOOL HQ

    OLD SKOOL HQ All-Star

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2005
    Messages:
    4,107
    Likes Received:
    529
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Well a very good week as we swept Cavs.., I mean, Indians to cap a 4-1 week. Defensively, they have been as good as I've seen in years. the starters are uniquely consistent with Rogers continuing to stablize the staff. Not a good week offensively, but clutch hits from Monroe, Inge, Ordonez and Shelton.
  2. roscoe36

    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2005
    Messages:
    20,227
    Likes Received:
    2,090
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dagobah
    I'm kinda following baseball this year, the Tigers pitching has been great.

    I'm happy to see Fernando Rodney getting the chance to close.
  3. TheeTFD

    TheeTFD All-Star

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    9,555
    Likes Received:
    472
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Los Lunas, NM
    Somethings unnatural here. A .550 winning % might be expected. But .600 is too high. Keeping one eye on the standings.
  4. mercury

    mercury Bench Warmer

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2005
    Messages:
    3,396
    Likes Received:
    10
    Location:
    Amish Hood
    Good idea HQ starting a weekly thread on the Tigers... nice having a Swiss army knife forum.

    I'll have to agree with Thee about there being some fools gold... I thought it might be interesting to get folks take on how these players will improve/decline moving forward... here's my guesstimates:

    C Monroe -

    C Granderson +

    I Rodriguez +


    C Shelton
    -

    C Guillen +


    P Polanco +


    B Inge
    -

    M Thames -

    J Bonderman
    -

    K Rogers even


    J Verlander
    -

    M Maroth
    -

    N Robertson
    -

    J Zumaya
    +


    N Robertson -

    F Rodney
    -

    T Jones
    -

    J Walker
    -

    I don't have much confidence in Todd Jones or Maroth... but this Zumaya kid could be special

    Any other predictions?
  5. OLD SKOOL HQ

    OLD SKOOL HQ All-Star

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2005
    Messages:
    4,107
    Likes Received:
    529
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Nice quotes on the + and -. The way i see it, there's always a team that sneaks up on somebody for a season. I dont want that. All I want to see is a team that can guarantee us 85-77 in a 'bad' year.
  6. SKluck

    SKluck First Round Draft Pick

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2005
    Messages:
    177
    Likes Received:
    0
    Don't look now but we are tied for the best record in the MLB! Add to that our best in the league road record, and we'll be sitting pretty once we get to play more home games.

    Zumaya got out of a hell of a bind Robertson put us in today in the 7th. Polanco is an amazing fielder. Robertson has been the least impressive of our starters. He only gave up 3+1 he gave to zumaya, but last year he was great, he just never got any offensive support, this year he seems to be doing just a hair worse. Everyone else has stepped up exponentially though.

    Zumaya can get out of control at times, but overall he's been good with that rocket he calls an arm. The sky's the limit for him. I disagree with giving all of our pitchers except z - marks though. They've been a little shaky after that insane 15 of 16 good starts, but the last 4 games have been solid. #1 or #2 bullpen in the league? I'll take it.
  7. mercury

    mercury Bench Warmer

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2005
    Messages:
    3,396
    Likes Received:
    10
    Location:
    Amish Hood
    Skluck,
    Which pitchers do you think will improve from their current winning (or save) % ?
  8. Warthog

    Warthog Bench Warmer

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    2,587
    Likes Received:
    6
    Location:
    Sterling Heights, MI
    i think having rogers is a big reason why we're doing so well. bonderman no longer has to be the #1 guy, especially being so young he now has pressure taken off of him, and he doesn't have to face so many ace pitchers like rogers is used to. this trickles down to the rest of the pitching staff.
  9. OLD SKOOL HQ

    OLD SKOOL HQ All-Star

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2005
    Messages:
    4,107
    Likes Received:
    529
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    The thing is, guys, we will have our stretches during the year, because our 5 starters arent the Pistons 5. We have no depth at that postition and we still have to spot start Zumaya and Grilli a few times. I dont want Tigertown to expect a title or wild card but the media is gonna eat this up. Leyland was on Mike and Mike this morn and I love how he "POO-POO"s everything. we aint no where near Chicago, and may not be 'better' than Cleveland . Lets enjoy the year and what happens, happens and let's enjoy the sunshine. Great win last night. This team reminds me of the 87 Tigers. Good defense and good starters. Timely hitting. Did u know that only 6 Tigers have made at least 1 error all year? Go Bengals!
  10. ggazoo69

    ggazoo69 Team Captain Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    3,080
    Likes Received:
    150
    Location:
    Mansfield Center, CT
    The thing that continues to blow me away is how efficient the pitching staff has been. Best in the majors right now. Check the stats. Maroth is a huge surprise. Bonderman has been a little disappointing, actually. Verlander has been decent. Rogers has been AWESOME. What the guy lacks in power, he makes up in experience. Robertson is still trade bait, I think, but we'll see. I think Jones should be traded to a contender, as well, as the trade deadline nears. Rodney can be the closer for this team. We can get a third-baseman prospect out of it perhaps. Does Inge even have a backup? I'm enjoying the ride but I still don't think this team gets 90 wins. I'm hoping for 87 or so. That would be great. Chisox probably still win the division, but can Tigers sneak into the wild card? The problem there is the Indians haven't kicked it into high gear and neither have the BoSox or Yanks. The season is a marathon, not a sprint. Let's see what kind of endurance these Tigers have. Leyland has made a huge difference over Tram. There was a situation a few weeks ago when Bonderman had lost focus out on the mound and instead of the pitching coach coming out, Leyland went out there and basically got in Bondy's face and told him to pull his head outta his azz. I didn't see it, but it was explained on the radio. Tram never woulda done that.
  11. TheeTFD

    TheeTFD All-Star

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    9,555
    Likes Received:
    472
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Los Lunas, NM
    looks like the leftys have bonded and are feeding off each other.
  12. OLD SKOOL HQ

    OLD SKOOL HQ All-Star

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2005
    Messages:
    4,107
    Likes Received:
    529
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    40 games and 27-13 record. Meaning if we play just .500 ball here out, we'll go 88-74. Thats good enough for me. Here are my quarter term grades:

    LF- Monroe/Thames combined .243 14 HR 30RBI...only 1 error,,great defense and timely hitting from the 8 hole................B-
    CF- Granderson .262/6/13....commanding presence at top of order..great d in CF...reminds me of Chet Lemon...lot to still learn........B
    RF- Ordonez .299/10/26...solidifies respect..will have better 2nd half ...A
    3B- Inge .242/9/23...holds down the fort better than any role player in AL...would like a TRoy Glaus-type player, but he has 9 HR's........B
    SS- Guillen.333/5/25...MVP ..great D, best hitter in lineup..will also get hotter...watch injuries, needs to only play 5 games a week, thanks to Santiago...A+
    2B- Polanco.291/1/12....The anchor. As he goes , so goes we...Best DP combo in baseball....A
    1B- Shelton .298/11/25...Got us off and running..overall he's back to normal..I expect his avearge to stay the same...Best number 7 hitter in baseball...A
    C- Rodriguez.306/2/15...I dont like his power numbers, but sans streiods, this is what he is...Put him in 7th spot and his attitude drops. so..keep the king happy i guess...B
    DH- love how Leland uses this to rest his stars....A+
    Starters......The number 1 ranked staff in the game..'nuff said...A
    Relievers...and remember we BLEW 4 games, but over very solid. Jones is a good OLDSkool presence for Rodney and Z....B

    Leyland gets a sweet AA...how many of us would still be happy with 20-20?
  13. TheeTFD

    TheeTFD All-Star

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    9,555
    Likes Received:
    472
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Los Lunas, NM
    Good report BHQ.
  14. ggazoo69

    ggazoo69 Team Captain Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    3,080
    Likes Received:
    150
    Location:
    Mansfield Center, CT

    Pretty hard to quibble with any of this. I still think the Tigers should trade Jones near the trade deadline if the team is not in contention for a third-base prospect. Having Inge stuck at third base does not free him up to play anywhere else like backup catcher. Also, Jones has a 4.05 ERA, which stinks for a closer. He's not the solution for the long haul. Rodney is. It's like a rollercoaster ride every time Jones goes out there. Also, Shelton has really cooled off. If he doesn't hit above .300, I'll be disappointed.
  15. TheeTFD

    TheeTFD All-Star

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    9,555
    Likes Received:
    472
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Los Lunas, NM
    Re: Shelton, I'd settle for .285 with power.
  16. OLD SKOOL HQ

    OLD SKOOL HQ All-Star

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2005
    Messages:
    4,107
    Likes Received:
    529
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Shelton's projected stats..... .312 avg 25 HR 88 RBI...i'll settle for that
  17. OLD SKOOL HQ

    OLD SKOOL HQ All-Star

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2005
    Messages:
    4,107
    Likes Received:
    529
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Great week for the Bengals . 6 and 1 with only loss to Reds on friday at the "Dont u dare call it the copa or I'll kill u" Park. Top highlights:
    1. Justin V-man.....17 innings and 0 runs!!! Please dont over use this guy. What great stuff!!
    2. Todd Jones...4-4 saves
    3. Two great 1 run wins vs Cincinnati. A springboard to confidence.
    i think I'm falling in love with this team. 30-14...89-73 if we play .500 here on out...........
  18. TheeTFD

    TheeTFD All-Star

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    9,555
    Likes Received:
    472
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Los Lunas, NM
    That 1-0 victory was monster.

Share This Page