Discussion in 'January 2012' started by roscoe36, Jan 16, 2012.
8:00 PM EST
TV: FS Detroit + / NBA league Pass
Radio: 97.1 The Ticket
Must watch game. Luis Scola's first 30/20 game coming up.
Rockets look competitive lately....winning 4 of the last 5, including tonight's game against Washington.
Wonder how JD feels about signing a has been and a never was this off season.............
Gotta be hard on BK being on a team with no good examples to follow at guard.
Houston by 11.............
Houston by 9
Houston by 11.
They'll be up 20+ pts in the 4th, but Bynum will score a bunch of points in GT to make the score seem respectable.
Pistons plane makes an emergency landing. Everybody's ok.
BTW, 44 people on the plane? Quite the entourage.
Post forced-landing-traumatic-incident, the players start to reflect on "What's Really Important In Life."
Most don't pick basketball.
Pistons lose focus, Timberwolves by 16.
Perhaps Mr Cheever and a few associates from his company co-chartered Roundball-one.
I bet the Pistons org is just throwing some perks at Mr. Cheever and his associates after the incident.
"Pistons shake up lineup: Ben Wallace starts due to upcoming rash of post scorers. Jonas to the bench." - Keith Langlois, via Twitter.
First time since December 2003 that the Pistons had no FT in the first half.....also believe this may be the first game this season that Monroe did not score in the first half....
don't saw the game, can't really talk.
Hope some of you guys to do some of their resumes of the games so I can have some idea of why Monroe took less shots
Was stuck with Houston's announcers on LP. Biggest homers ever. No one is good except their players apparently. First time I've ever heard of the number 8 overall pick being "late in the first round". Do your homework. Seriously. And then they kept campaigning for continuations on shots that were not at all continuation worthy. Just painful.
Greg's worst game of the season scoring wise, but the effort was there. He was just ice cold, and the Rockets did a good job of getting the ball out of his hands, forcing the Pistons to look for other options. He did have 6 assists, however. With him neutralized on offense, the team struggled to score. Tay, BG, Brandon and Stuckey all scored in double digits, but this team needs Greg to be a threat inside. The Rockets just clogged the lane and forced everyone to settle for outside jumpers. Like Brandon, he didn't get a favorable whistle, which is why he and the team had zero free throw attempts all of the first half. Dalembert was just elbowing and hooking him all night, no call. Looked frustrated as hell, but who wouldn't be. These officials were so horrible even the homer Rockets announcers were whining about them, and their team was the one getting the hometown calls.
Tayshaun had probably his best game so far. He really helped keep us in it, especially in the first half. Had a horrible, horrible turnover midway through the fourth. Got to clean that up. He's been horrid at protecting the ball at the rim the last two games. He did have two brilliant plays at the end of the first and third quarters though, running ahead and first getting a dunk with .7 left on the clock, and the next a jumper. He was probably our best player tonight.
Brandon started off very well, aggressive early, driving the lane and not settling for outside jumpers. Only took 2 shots from behind the 3 point line, both wide open, going 1 for 2. He was fouled a lot while doing all this, no calls. The officials swallowed their whistles for the entirety of the first half then started calling silly fouls on everyone and everything. The TO numbers are bad, but 3 of those are for offensive fouls, 2 of which were bad calls. This was the most frustrated I've ever seen him, which, like with Moose, is understandable. Heck, even the homers on the Rockets broadcast were conceding that he was fouled. He and Moose had tough nights in that aspect. JJ hit him with an elbow to the face at the end and he looked like he was limping a bit, but hopefully he's okay.
Stuckey looked okay. Had his moments of tunnel vision as usual, but he did well in the first half. Unfortunately, it wasn't all roses and honey for him; lazy ball handling was about the worst thing about him in this game. He got his pocket picked twice in a row if I remember right, once after an inbounds pass (he bends over and dribbles it low to the ground, which is then poked away from him). This was what kick started Houston's blowout-inducing run. And he didn't even try to get back on defense either time. Frank needs to get on him to correct that.
BG was good. He scored relatively efficiently, going 7 for 15. His effort on defense was also there, in fact it was probably the best I've ever seen from him on that end. He was able to steal the ball away from Kevin Martin multiple times as well. He did get up one or two bad shots, but he had just hit two in a row at the time, so forgivable.
JJ was just invisible. He got two quick fouls when he came in during the second quarter, and he just was never able to recover. He's been really inconsistent, and with him or Ben on the floor, the Rockets were playing 4 on 5 basketball on defense basically the whole way. Not a good game for him at all.
Big Ben - love him, but the Rockets took advantage his lack of an offensive game all night, leaving him to go and double or triple team Greg every time on offense. The Pistons really need a good two-way big man to play alongside Greg.
Good effort, it all just fell apart at the end. Fourth Quarter Collapse ftl.
Good recap Alexa... The Pistons continued to hang around the Rockets despite nada scoring from Monroe and even had an excellent chance to possibly tie game as they open the 3rd on 4-0 run coming within 3pts of Houston before they woke up.
I haven't check the final stats, but from what observed, I know we got killed in the paint and probably got out rebounded too. Once again careless mistakes like one that Alexa mentioned where a time out by Frank turned a six point Piston deficit into a 15 pt deficit in less three minutes. Stuck and Tay's lack focus on an inbounds play pretty much turned a close game into a rout. Some dude name Drago scored the next 7 points for the Rockets and we never recovered...
Frank started a front line of Ben, G-mon and Tay, but only player that seem to benefit was Tay....back to drawing board.......
I definitely agree with this statement. If we have to start Ben Wallace or play him more than about 10 mpg, we are probably going to lose on most nights.
Good recap. The officials really let both teams play in this game. This did not help some of our softer guys (e.g., Monroe).
GM only scored 4 pts on 2/9 shooting but had 6 assists and 11 boards, so he was making the passes and workin the boards. He didnt get to the line once which is kinda his bread and butter as a good ft shooting big. Also our shooters couldnt shoot tonight which allowed the Rockets to collapse and give help on GM so he couldnt drive. We need our guards to quit this dribble and pass bs, when you have the shot.....TAKE THE ****IN SHOT!!!!! instead of making the extra pass to a guy that is covered. This is making me furious. These guys are makin love to it instead of simply playin the game, since we were kids you shoot when youre open...whats the problem here? are they so confident that they need a defender in their face to justify how good they are when they finally make a shot? Newsflash, you suck, you are losing at an incredible rate fellas. No need to increase the difficulty here. when youre open??????SHOOT THE ****ING BALL>>>>>>>I swear to christ I will pistol whip the next son of a bitch that passes up an open shot just to give the ball to a teammate that is covered and forces that teammate(which is usually Ben or GM) to shoot under pressure. The scouts for other teams have our number, look at the step in front steals...they know the friggin pass is coming even if the defender is there. man Im pissed
I thought the team look pretty bad. Tay had a good game. That is about it.
Yes, other teams can get the Pistons to make turnovers by increasing pressure pretty much when they want. The Piston offense is last in the league apparantly.
Don't know what happened to Monroe in this game?
JJ just passes the ball around the perimeter and when he drives often doesn't know what to do. He needs coaching...
Gordon and Stuckey have little or no impact on games. They both tend to lose the ball at critical times. The points were there from them this game but the impact was negligible. I would rather see Knight play.
Interesting to see that with ben paired with Monroe, the opponent doubles Monroe and takes away his scoring.... But he gets them back with assists. he was responsible for 16 points with the assists and his own scoring, which is fine for a big. I'm totally past the losing and just find the development interesting. Monroe "goes to work" every game and it it's refreshing.
Well I can't quote you word for word, Copper, but I agree there is to much passing as no one wants to shoot even if they got an opening other than Monroe or Stuckey. All that passing leads to a hurried low percentage shot or a turnover,
To much pump Tay faking by JJ, Daye, Gordon and the master Tay himself. The team is not agressive enough either. I am certain they must be in the bottom 5 in the league in FTA. None were taken tonight until about 4 mins left in the 3rd qter. Who is the offensive guru on the coaching staff?
Kudos to the coach for at least realizing JJ is not a starting power forward. However, coach has yet to realize JJ is not a power forward at all. It is a good start that Ben Wallace replaced him in the starting unit at least. Coach did not stick to his game plan though, leaving Ben Wallace in past the 6 minute mark of each half. Just a couple of minutes over each half - but look at what happened in those two minutes. Play Ben just a bit to start the games, get him off the floor for a while - and put him back in for a short spell again. Like the coach said he was going to do. We had very good defense to start each half. Inside stuff got knocked away - and on our offensive end there were were getting offensive rebounds. Without a few broken play scores Houston lucked into, our new starting unit (for 6 minutes anyway to start each half) looked pretty darn good.
On offense, Gordon is still out there. He will hit a shot on occasion sure, but we need Stuckey to start along side Knight, not Gordon - and Daye should be the 3rd guard in a 3 man rotation. Neither Gordon nor Daye can handle the ball all that well - but Daye gives you better D, and helps out a lot with the interior stuff. And as a shooting guard, he is going to pose a mismatch we can exploit.
In this game, Ben Wallace should have come out at 6 minutes, and JMAX should have went in for him. Instead, as one would expect from someone as stubborn as this new coach, he went with JJ, reforming the failed starting unit he just went away from.
And when Monroe gets a spell - bring in Macklin - to keep a big with length on the floor at all times. Pretty simple concept. Not to mention, if we let him, Macklin could also be a post threat for us while Monroe sits.
Time JJ should play power forward in a game - zero minutes.
Start: Knight, Stuckey, JJ, Ben Wallace, Monroe
at 6 minutes, bring in JMAX for Ben Wallace and Daye for Stuckey.
Gives for 2nd 6 minutes of 1st quarter: Knight, Daye, JJ, JMAX, Monroe
Start of 2nd quarter: Stuckey, Daye, Tay, JMAX, Macklin
Last 6 minutes of 2nd quarter: Knight, Stuckey, JJ, Ben Wallace, Monroe
Repeat for 2nd half.
For minutes: Gordon zero, CV zero, Wilkins zero, Bynum zero
Stuckey 36, Knight 36, Daye 24, JJ 36, Tay 12, Ben Wallace 24, JMAX 24, Monroe 36, Macklin 12
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