Agree. No reason to sugar coat it. Andre was taught a lesson. What bothered me was that he allowed Howard easy position. What bothered me was that Howard went right around him. But no panic here. Andre will get stronger and wiser. I am more concerned about the seeming lack of any system on offense or defense 30 games in. The Charlotte loss on Friday was a give away and it wasn't all on the players. And yes, it affected the team in this game. It is a lot of little things. No out of bounds play. Little motion in the offense. Seemingly letting teams have the drive and the 3 point shot on defense--not taking anything away. Seeming lack of preparation for team's different offenses. Failure to get several players to focus on their free throw shooting. These are things both big and small that most teams do--even the poorer teams. The Pistons have holes in personnel but you get the feeling that the Piston record should be better personnel or not. I hope on am wrong here. It is easy to second guess. But coaching is very important the next two years as this team (hopefully) becomes a legitimate contender.