Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by TheeTFD, May 27, 2011.
Now we know who was the cry baby during that losing streak in the regular season. IT HAS TO BE HIM.
I am as well, even though this will likely be unfairly laid at the feet of Eric Spoelstra.
Well deserved, Dirk!
I don't think Stern realises this yet, but the Mavericks have just done him a huge favour.
The Mavs winning was a win for the NBA. It was a win for the fans. And it was a win for team basketball.
This has all the hallmarks of the Pistons win in 04. A bunch of guys who have tried and failed before, been written off and thrown away, came together and proved that 5 guys playing together can overcome the odds.
Think about it, had the Heat won it would have vindicated the 'stars aligning' and thrown more support behind the idea of creating super-teams. Guys like Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, Kevin Durant.... They all would have seen what it took to win and tried to form something similar.
You then have a situation where you have 5 or 6 super-teams and the rest of the teams left with zero chance to do anything.
The talent pool would be so lop-sided it becomes a joke of a league. Fans would desert because why bother?
I don't think I'm going too OTT here, but I tell you, this win is more important than many people will ever realise.
I salute the Mavs team, Rick Carlisle, even Mark Cuban and especially guys like Dirk and Terry for staying the course, showing loyalty through success and failure and showing how a real team wins.
Is ESPN taking a subtle dig at the Heat with this headline?
How does the saying go: "Good things come...to those that wait"...instead of banding together with other superstars to go ring-chasing?
And you're saying that the situation is different today?
Just some thoughts.....
Best Power forwards of all time...
1. Tim Duncan
2. Karl Malone
3. Charles Barkley
4. Dirk Nowitski
5. Elvin Hayes
6. Kevin McHale
Dirk wins the SHIP big next season and I put him right behind Duncan....
Hopefully, nobody feels that would be turrible to do......
I think Spolestra will be the coach at Miami for a long time.....
4th quarter points this series...
Dirk Nowitski - 62
Dwayne Wade - 44
Lebron James - 18
4th quarter rebounds this series...
Dirk - 18
LeBron - 11
LeBron was GRILLED at the post game presser. He definitely snapped with another controversial statement. For some reason, I feel sorry for the guy, even though he brought all of this on himself...
He does have all his money and his lifestyle, but something tells me that the demons will still be swirling inside of his head when he wakes up today........
quoted for later, because I'm not sure exactly how to spell PFFFFFFBTBTBTPHTPBFT!
SOMEBODY has to take the hit for two stars acting so immaturely.
I love to make predictions here at the PF. I'm figuring that two superstars will take the hit this summer for their behavior, and Riley will not let him go...
I remember a series in the mid 80s where Magic played so bad in the finals against the Celtics...that the press started calling him "Tragic" Johnson. No coaches were fired...Instead, magic actually grew as a person and recommitted himself to correcting his flaws...and the rest is history...
This humbling will help LeBron grow as a person...Just not sure how much this offseason...
doesn't disprove the plan.
Latin Proverb quotes
You might as well have next years avi..this years is disgusting enough
Yea, that was funny. Thank goodness that Golden State can deal with Jackson now.
If they survived the end of Run TMC they can survive the inception of MJax.
I have one other observation:
Spoelstra was not very motivating. All of his talk about how "this is going to be a long 12 minutes" and "the key is to keep mental composure" made it seem like he thought they were on the verge of choking or freaking out.
Most coaches in that instance would have been trying to fire their guys up. Something like, "(insert Bill Laimbeer speech here)."
First, good job voters correctly predicting the outcome.
Second, I think Spolestra's gone, or at least sent back to being the video coordinater. And deservedly so. He never managed to get an offense in place that worked to the advantage of his players. And his defense was occasionally good, but once the Mavs started hitting the open shots the defense gave them it was all over but the shouting.
You can say that James et al didn't buy in, didn't listen, whatever. And that could be right, but they're sure not going to start next season, so it's the coach or James, and I know how that will turn out.
This was kind of a rude awakening maybe. Everybody, Spoelstra, James, Wade, Bosh, Haslem, Chalmers etc etc all seemed to be suprised that they didn't win it all easily. They all looked like they were surprised to find that they had to actually work hard.
Darn right Walter...that's how I saw it.....
Second-guessing: David Thorpe on the Finals - TrueHoop Blog - ESPN
This is huge indictment of the "King".
How about those old school Mahorn-esque bad boy fouls by the Custodian and the Rodman-like charge he took on Wade? I can't believe he is still contributing after all these years. How can you not root for that guy?
Also, I think that he got a fan ejected.
What an awesome 2 minute stretch from him.
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