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  1. roscoe36

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    vs Golden State Warriors

    Monday, February 24, 2014 - 7:30 PM Eastern


    Palace of Auburn Hills, Detroit, MI

    LOCAL TV: FS Detroit
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    GO PISTONS!
     
  2. Nemo

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    Golden State is solid and competing for 1st in their division.
    Their low on bigs though. We have no coach...no leadership...and
    JD is currently trying out for the role of Lame Duck...

    Warriors 99 - Pistons 102
     
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    I just want them to maintain the pace to give Charlotte the best pick they can possibly get out of this deal.
     
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    Walter All-Star Forum Donor

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    Our starters, yes, including Singler, have been great. Stuckey's defense is painful to watch. Thanks to playing 4-on-5 defense with him on the floor, Golden State is very much back in the game.
     
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    Another game where we give up over 6o points in the first half. We are trying to hang though as the Warriors lead by 63-62, with both teams shooting 50% or better.

    The Warriors have dropped 8 three pointers on us, including three by Curry and three by hometown kid Jordan Crawford. The Pistons have to tighten the perimeter D in the second half.
     
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    Another poor 4th Q performance offensively and the GS bench thoroughly outplays Detroit's bench.
     
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    62 points in the 1st half and 34 in the 2nd?

    Strange problem we have.
     
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    Now this is getting truly bizarre. Singler played 3 minutes shy of the entire game. He was minus 6, never found anyone he could guard. As the game progressed, the Pistons focused a whole lot of attention on backing up Singler. But they still scored more points on Singler than Singler scored. Still, nice to see Singler hit some shots. Especially since they guard Singler with the shortest player on the floor. A time or two, Singler, and the Pistons, did manage to exploit the fact Singler is taller than these guards. In the 2nd half, Singler hardly scored, 4 points if I recall, but never came out of the game. So in the 2nd half, he gave us no offense, yet we went thru the trouble and energy of watching his back all half.

    In contrast, we could, instead, get a guy who could be the guy to back up other players. A small forward who can add defense is a very valuable guy. Singler is not that guy. And as a guard? Thompson loses Singler so fast, with so little effort, that it is completely, and totally, laughable.

    And 3 rebound. Another loss, largely from having Singler on the squad. But Bynum was out there too, also not playing D. Bynum was minus 4 himself. In some kind of fit or something, coach took him out in crunch time. Must have hurt the coach something terrible to have to take one of his favorites out of the game.

    Seriously, here we were against a pretty darn good team, trying to win in crunch time with Bynum and Singler on the floor. Oh, and again, Drummond did not foul out, but the coach would not put him in at the end of the game. For one very important reason. The obsession, by the owner apparently, of playing Singler at all costs, all the time preferrably, meant we could not put Drummond back in. Singler had to play. And since of course it would have embarrassed the coach mightily to have let Thompson burn Singler in crunch time, he had him playing small forward, where of course he is equally incapable of doing anything on defense.

    Monroe scored plenty. Our front line and Jennings missed doing the 4 double doubles thing by one point from Drummond.

    Pope barely played, just a couple of minutes late 1st half.

    JJ looked fine. Basically, he makes it a 7 and a half man rotation.

    Stuckey got way too many minutes for not producing. We would have been better served playing Siva for his D.

    Well, another coaching loss. I expect the next move is to put Bynum in as the starter, and play both Bynum and Singler the whole game. This will be an attempt to confuse the other team, since it will be so hard to decide to exploit Singler, or Bynum, on any given play.
     
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    Boy did we tank let this one get away from us. It was almost identical to Saturday's game as once again the Pistons offense dries up in crunch time scoring only 2 points in the final four minutes as the Warriors closed the game on 15-6 run. The Pistons missed their last 8 shots and faded again in the 4th after leading the 88-85 just under 10 minutes left in the game. Bad decisions and bad shots did them in as well some bad fouls by Drummond that kept on the bench for almost half of the game.

    10-34 shooting for all of the Piston guards not named Singler. Stuckey was probably the worst again on both ends of the floor. Bynum who had a great second quarter but was just ordinary in the 4th giving up points with his height. None of them from Singler to Jennings to Bynum to Stuckey to the 2 statless minutes that KCP had looked decent in the 4th. We need better guard play to know when to pass and how to shoot.

    Also we knew those guys could shoot and they did their best to intimidate our non-perimeter D, shooting 31 three balls and hitting 13 of them. We hit 4...

    The Pistons played excellent D in the 3rd quarter holding the Warriors to 18 points after scoring 30+ in the prior two quarters. Unfortunately their D in the 4th trumped ours....

    The Celtics are trailing, the Knicks loss and the Sixers tanked again, so no gain in the race for the 8th playoff lottery pick.
     
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    Well, the team competed. At times, the bigs pounded them (they were without Lee). But our bigs are not as efficient as they can and should be either. Andre needs time and so to does Monroe. Monroe looked good but also still misses too much. He does not yet dominate but he may. Andre, as good as he already is, gives away too much on defense. I hope they work on that over the off-season.

    Old theme: no one on the team can score in crunch time besides hitting a stray bucket. And so the team doesn't score as Dre noted above. Until Andre or Drummond start to dominate or until the Piston guards can produce, that looks like how it will be.

    Yes, as Lee noted, Bynum usually drops off when the opposing team turns up the crunch time defense. But that is not Bynum's fault as he is not suppose to be the main point guard. At least this coach understands the guard problem by taking some of the pressure off of Jennings. But, of course, Bynum is not the answer. The Pistons guards cannot get into the lane in crunch time to scramble the defense. And they cannot be relied on to hit a jumper. So it goes to Monroe or Josh down low against the whole team it seems.

    Now Josh hit for a low percentage also. But the stats may not tell the whole story. In the third, on two plays Jennings did not drive or take the shot late and dump the ball out to Josh. Those misses are on Jennings or on the offense in general. The lack of shooting from the guard spots does not show up completely in the box scores. The effect of the poor shooing hobbles the entire offense.
     
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    It was a good game and both teams played hard and all that.

    Jermaine O'Neal? We couldn't stop Jermaine O'Neal.
    Stuckey seems to be reverting to his old form. Kyle had a nice game. The Palace crowd seemed to be into the game. I think the team is playing harder under JLo.
     
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    Let me sum up this game

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    You mean Singler is the only one playing defence and trying to block the shot? While the rest is back late and can only watch?
     
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    Scoring by the Quarters...37 - 25 - 21 - 13.

    We shot over 50% for the first half, but finish at 40%...:cold:
     
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    The 5th quarter would have been dreadful.
     
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    Seriously? Singler scores 18 points on 11 shots, holds Iguodala to 4 points and 2 boards on 2/10 shooting, and gets blame for the game? That is truly getting bizarre.
     
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    Look, the guy was the third pick. He needs to step up.
     
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    Clueless coaching.
     
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    Perhaps Singler is a distant nephew of Gores.
     
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    Allow me to sum up why we lost:
    First quarter:
    11:03 Josh Smith misses 7-foot hook shot
    8:03 Josh Smith misses 18-foot jumper
    7:16 Brandon Jennings misses 17-foot jumper
    7:03 Brandon Jennings misses 3-foot jumper (blocked by Jermaine O'Neal)
    4:41 Josh Smith misses 6-foot hook shot
    1:52 Rodney Stuckey misses 7-foot jumper
    1:29 Josh Smith misses free throw 1 of 1
    0:52 Josh Smith misses 3-foot jumper
    0:37 Brandon Jennings misses layup (blocked by Draymond Green)
    Second quarter:
    11:25 Rodney Stuckey misses 11-foot two point shot
    10:59 Josh Smith misses 20-foot jumper
    10:21 Brandon Jennings misses 27-foot three point jumper
    9:51 Rodney Stuckey misses 24-foot three point jumper
    9:45 Rodney Stuckey misses layup
    9:36 Josh Smith misses free throw 1 of 2
    9:36 Josh Smith misses free throw 2 of 2
    8:19 Josh Smith misses 21-foot jumper
    8:07 Josh Smith bad pass (Draymond Green steals)
    3:34 Rodney Stuckey misses 19-foot jumper
    0:28 Josh Smith misses two point shot
    Third quarter:
    11:03 Brandon Jennings misses 17-foot jumper
    6:56 Josh Smith misses 18-foot jumper
    5:35 Josh Smith misses 21-foot jumper
    5:13 Brandon Jennings misses 27-foot three point jumper
    4:28 Josh Smith misses hook shot
    3:34 Josh Smith traveling
    1:39 Josh Smith misses 26-foot three point jumper
    1:29 Brandon Jennings misses 21-foot jumper
    0:04 Josh Smith misses 17-foot jumper
    Fourth quarter:
    9:53 Rodney Stuckey misses 4-foot jumper
    8:17 Rodney Stuckey misses 4-foot jumper (blocked by Harrison Barnes)
    7:26 Josh Smith misses 20-foot jumper
    6:11 Josh Smith out of bounds lost ball turnover
    4:47 Josh Smith misses 6-foot hook shot
    2:43 Brandon Jennings misses 27-foot three point jumper
    1:51 Josh Smith misses 6-foot hook shot
    1:28 Rodney Stuckey misses 13-foot jumper (blocked by Andre Iguodala)
    0:55 Brandon Jennings misses 26-foot three point jumper

    So Stuckey (2/10), Jennings (4/13), and Smith (9/24) go a combined 15/47 (31.9%). If they all shoot at least 40% (still a bad rate, but not as terrible), then the Pistons score 106 points and win.
     
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