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  1. BillLaimbeer

    BillLaimbeer All-Star 5x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    It was $14 million per season and then they spread it out to reduce the annual cap hit.
     
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    LA Dre All-Star 1x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    I can tell you that jobless 31 year Josh Smith with his 5 to $14 M per year unemployment check
    is having more fun than all of us did when were 31 years old and had a job... no pressure from the boss, a beautiful wife....just sitting at the pool during the day and partying at night....
    I am sure she didn't mind moving from The ATL to the D to Houston listening to fans complain about him as long as she knew he would be free in his 30's to stay at home and still make money without groupies taking away his affections and cash....

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  3. roscoe36

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    Probably had to let his personal chef go. That was the most impressive thing about Josh. He had this guy who followed him everywhere and made everything he ate, fresh.
     
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    LA Dre All-Star 1x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    Boy Isaiah 2.0 is living up to his namesake: 53 points in a 53 minute game playing 45 minutes. Markieff Morris should have never have gotten him mad...

    A tribute to IT's sister's 23rd birthday...
     
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  5. pass99

    pass99 All-Star Forum Donor

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    Dwight Howard has the same arrangement. Smart thing to do.
    Reminds me of RJ, the ability was always there; but,
    never applied it consistently on the floor with four other people.
    And I am being kind with the word: consistency.

    Speaking of Howard, notice this ridiculous summation on what his value now is:
    Rumor Central: Dwight Howard's trade value is very low

    Right below the Howard article, is another one concerning Tim Hardaway Jr.
    Rumor Central: Tim Hardaway Jr. expected to land a big deal
    Hey Dad, how did we miss out?
     
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    Is Dre even as good as Dwight today?
     
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    Yes, he is. And future value is much higher obviously.
     
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    Who had the better year this past season?
     
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    We still have time to make some of these mistakes right and not dragging us down.
     
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    You know it is cheating if you bring wins and losses into it. LOL
     
  11. TaS

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    You guys act like dre fell off a cliff. He just didn't improve at the rate you expected.
     
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    I was seriously just wondering who had the better year. They have similar games (average double-double, bad FT shooters, etc.) in some respects.
     
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    Don't blame you for not watching much Hawks basketball. Seriously boring team. Coach Bud's face is a cartoon every time at the refs.
     
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    Your right. I am looking forward to the next 4 years.
     
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    Stat: Dre/ DHo/ Difference
    Pts: 1105/ 1002/ +103
    Reb: 1116/ 940/ +176
    Ast: 89/ 104/ -15
    Stl: 124/ 64/ +60
    Blk: 89/ 92/ -3
    eFG: .532/ .633/ -.101
    PER: 20.9/ 20.8/ +0.01
    Vorp: 1.7/ 2.4/ -0.7

    Part of the difference in production stems from AD's durability. He has only missed 3 games in the last 4 seasons!


    I'd say that overall, their individual seasons were fairly similar.
     
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    Did he improve at the rate You expected? :)
     
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    A lot going on with this ball club. Some big transitions.
    Can their be any correlations between these similar market teams?
    Atlanta current value: 885 M (#23)
    Detroit current value: 900 M (#21)

    For instance:
    Atlanta lost their GM (Wes Wilcox who will still be in the organization).
    Demoted their President of Basketball Operations (Budenholzer),
    But kept their head coach (Budenholzer).
    Could it be he lost the ball club and no leader to pick them up?

    A telling tale from the comment section, especially that last sentence (addition by subtraction)?

    Re: Mike Budenholzer Relinquishes President Duties With Hawks


    Post#3 » by hyberx » Yesterday 11:02 pm


    As a ex Pop aide, he was supposed to be a great coach and he coached like one few years ago (was in discussion for COTY with Kerr). Yet, he brought in Howard who is not motivated at all due to the lack of touches. Ok a lot of that blame goes to Howard, but still someone like McGee is playing great for Kerr. Also, Budenholzer got a boneheaded PG in Schroder, who was screaming at the coach even when the team were winning the game, just because the coach were yelling at him for a blown coverage on defense.

    It's hard to see how Budenholzer can have much success while not being able to rein in his starting PG and C.
     
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    I want my guys who can barely get rim on FTs to be consistently healthy. It would be a shame to miss out on that "production" for the season ticket holders.

    Expectations are premeditated resentments.

    I didn't have any expectations for Dre. He just played bad (relative to his salary, his position in the pecking order, and emphasis from the franchise) and my new thing is to call things what they are, not what I wish they were. I wish we were arguing over who Dre was more like, Shaq or Ben Wallace.

    Instead, we're comparing him to legendary knucklehead JaVale McGee because that comparison makes Dre look not so terrible.
     
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    No. But our starting PG was basically absent this season. I thought Dre maintained his good play and improved his post game. We had no spacing this year. With a paint center, you can't have a no range PG and a bunch of mid range guys.
     
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    And play with no pace at all. How would Gobert and DeAndre Jordan look playing on a team that is encouraged by their coach to randomly fling up shots whenever the mood strikes them?

    Watch all these playoff teams and there isn't one that plays all helter skelter likr the Pistons do.
     
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