Expiring Contracts: Holdover from old CBA?

Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by Slippy, Apr 25, 2013.

  1. Slippy

    Slippy All-Star Administrator Forum Donor

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    The value for any commodity is based upon current market conditions. This is true for free agents, tubs of popcorn and even expiring contracts. But what is an expiring contract worth? I think its a lot less than was before the new CBA.

    For an expiring contract to be worth anything, you need a plan. I would have hoped that Dumars and company have a a whiteboard with every target's contract scenario on it so you can see when guys become FAs. Because an expiring contract is only as valuable as the next guy you are going to use it on.

    Was CV worth $20 mil for 4 3 games where he shot the lights out over the past 2 seasons?

    In the old CBA, talent was king. You could get a 16 oz. rib eye, and a side of grilled prawns and fill that out with grilled veggies. Today, value is king. Big spenders will find their hands tied and that will trickle down to the rest.

    It will become too prohibitive to overpay a player. As it trends in that direction, it will be easier for teams to retain their players. Players do not want to move unless its good money. As money becomes less of a factor, it narrows down to environment and team chemistry. As that happens, the value of cap space to chase those players also diminishes.

    Just think of it: What can you get for CV's contract? Sure its an asset but what is it worth now?

    I'm not a CBA guru so it'll be interesting to see what people have to say about its ongoing impact and if Dumars is on track or behind the curve.
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    It does seem that the new CBA is a little more fascist in how it allows teams to allocate their resources. I think it will probably cycle - in years where teams have more overall money to spend, it will drive up the cost of free agents and create a scenario where, two or three years down the line, teams begin dumping salaries. But you won't see it every year, and I don't think there's going to be a market this year for using the Pistons as overflow cap space. There are 8 teams that are above $70 million next year - LA, Brooklyn, Miami, New York, Boston, Chicago, and possibly Golden State and Denver (depending on player options). All of them except Denver can easily afford those numbers, so what type of advantage Dumars can take of other teams' need for cost-cutting measures is not the same as it used to be.

    However, there will always be teams that want to rebuild, and a team like Brooklyn that's already into luxury tax area through 2016 may decide that they need to dump salaries in order to create the space they need. That's where you want to have that flexibility, to bring in guys like Gerald Wallace or Danilo Gallinari.
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    Also consider this, the end of the 7 year contract. Expiring deals used to be great because you'd find a team with a player on their roster who's under performed or wants a change of scenery in year 3 of a 7 year deal, now Free Agents are only signing 4 and 5 year deals, so you're not as handcuffed as you used to be. It's usually in year 3 where you give up on a guy and at that point they only have 1 year left, except in Detroit where Joe gives them an extension. Also free agent teams can only offer 4 year deals where a home team can offer 5, that's a 20% (plus annual raises) difference. There going to be bigger onus on drafting and coaching well.
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    Max contract length is 5 years now with Bird Rights.
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    Didn't Philly use their amnesty on Brands huge expiring?

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