I never said I liked Frank. I might never have used the clueless label on him, but I don't think that he was a good coach for us. You are disagreeing with what you perceive to be my opinion. My point was that he had 4 different coaches (and coaching staffs) to impress and earn play time. He has been unable to do that. If Daye had played for only one coach so far, you could make the argument that the coach was an idiot who hated the kid and torpedoed his career. At this point, you can't make that argument, because it would imply that there are 4 different coaches who are conspiring against a player. A more plausible explanation is that he's just a marginal player. Yes, let's see what happens now with Gay off the team. Other players on the team seem to have benefited from Gay's departure so far. If Daye explodes now and becomes half the player you believe he is, I will gladly eat the crow and change my avatar to any Austin Daye picture you wish for an entire year. Just to make it measurable, Daye's supposed to be a good shooter, right? That's his strength. If he manages to average more than 1.0 3pointer and 8.0 pts per game for the rest of the year (from the day of Rudy Gay trade) then you win.