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  1. BillLaimbeer

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    I think Brandon Knight will be more like Chauncey than Burke.

    Billups:
    rookie - 11.2 pts, 3.9 ast, 2.1 reb, 37.4% FG (age 21)
    soph. - 13.9 pts, 3.8 ast, 2.6 reb, 38.6% FG (age 22)

    Knight:
    rookie - 12.8 pts, 3.8 ast, 3.2 reb, 41.5% FG (age 20)
    soph. - 13.3 pts, 4.0 ast, 3.3 reb, 40.7% FG (age 21)
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    Maybe we'll have 2 Chaunceys... a PG leaning one and a SG leaning one. I'd be OK with that.

    Ball protection, looking for teammates first, and guts to take the big 3 are the ones that led me to that thought with Burke. They are both natural PGs with shooting ability... which makes them scoring PGs.

    last year of college:

    Burke: 18.6 pts/ 5.7 ast/ 2.5 tov/ .569 TS%
    Billup: 19.1 pts/ 4.8 ast/ 2.9 tov/ .596 TS%


    Burke faced much tougher competition and came out with more impressive ast/tov figures.
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    I always thought Bup Bup was more of a shooting guard / combo guard until LB converted him into a PG. He never really averaged more than 4 assists per game until he came to Detroit. Before he landed with the Pistons, he was listed on the Denver and Minnesota rosters as a SG.
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    Billups never avg'd a high number of asts because he never played. He and Burke are both PG's: point, blank, period.
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    That is not correct. Billups had several seasons of 30+ minutes before he landed in Detroit. His per36 assist numbers were still only in the 4-5 range.
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    This is what he should do and yet, I worry that the immediacy of his current and ambiguous status, will result in a different direction.
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    Oh, they rank players, because it is much an insider's game. In the end, as you surmised, they come the closest on how the top ten are following the herd instinct. In JD's mind, including that whole entourage of basketball minds around the Piston table, they confidently conclude that the dust usually settles evenly on the back-sides of the herd. It beats having a strategy.
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    I thought about this one for a while. It really depends on what he wants. If a 3yr/18m deal will satisfy him, then I would do it, but I really don't think of him as a professional.

    Chauncey was a good player sure, but his biggest quality was his draw as a leader. And not the Derek Fisher type either. He made the team play better because thats who he was.
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    Michigan overachieved with him running the show. We're talking about a guy who is undersized and considered average athletically (for a top 10 pick) that won POY/ Naismith and almost led his team to a Championship. I have the feeling that he's actually a very effective leader. Confident, humble, and unselfish.

    Trey Burke racking up awards but staying focused — UM Hoops.com

    There are reports about how he was the believer in the tournament comeback game that gave the other players confidence in the huddle. He has the reputation as first in and last out of the gym (Ben Wallace like), and he supposedly took time after practices to mentor bench players.

    I still find it unlikely that we'll get another guy falling so far at our draft position for the 3rd straight year.
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    However... if we do draft him, I really hope it doesn't take him as long as it did Chauncey to make the adjustment.
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    I am a big Mateen Cleaves fan.
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    Burke can do one thing Cleaves could never do..... shoot. The only drawback I have with Burke being on the team is I think we would need to move Knight either this summer or during the season, I just don't think you can have your best two guards be that small.
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    Brandon Knight is 6'3". Trey Burke is 6'1".

    The guards on the Bad Boys Pistons were pretty small:

    Isiah: 6'1"
    Vinnie: 6'2"
    Joe D: 6'3"
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    But those guards were hall of famers, BK and Trey are rotation players.
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    Trey Burke will make you forget about Vinnie Johnson.
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    Don't minimize Mateen's career. He's still working at the Palace at the age of 35.
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    Yeah you need to move Knight..........to the BENCH! I can deal with a Burke-Singler back court more than a Burke-Knight back court.
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    I'd prefer Burke-Middleton.
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    OK
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