Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by blueadams, Dec 24, 2012.
How tall is Zeller in flip-flops?
Ellis is probably the last player I want on this team. Worse 3pt-shooter than Igoudala and he's only 1 year younger. Not to mention the difference in their defensive game. The only defense Ellis plays is when he gambles for steals. It works 1-3 times per game, but the other 20 times results in points for the other team.
I'd settle for a pass-occasionally point.
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If what Wiggles ESPN predicts came to pass, do you guys think the midget back court of Burke-Knight can succeed in the NBA? If you have two seven footers in Moose and Drummond in the paint, does it matter if your backcourt lacks size? Granted larger guards can post up Burke/Knight, Drummond is a great help defender so it might actually work.
I guess it all hinges on who the SF is. If you have Singler starting at the 3 next year, probably not. If you have Iggy or Josh Smith. Who knows.
What are your thoughts?
It's hard to quantify those types of intangibles.
With FA signings at SG and SF who can shoot, Burke could have the role Bynum had in our bench version of the finals Magic while being able to shoot but with the starters. Burke FA FA Monroe Drummond starting with Knight, Khris, the Singler twins and our 56th pick coming off the bench. English, TRG and cheap FA as backups. 37th pick and Chaz in steet clothes. Mo at the helm. This actually sounds pretty nice.
I like modelling the starting five after a sub-30 win team bench.
Knight will not be coming off the bench. He is a starter for the next 3-4 years.
No, to Iggy (can't shoot from that position and knows it) vs. Josh Smith (can't shoot from that position and doesn't know it).
They both shoot around 45-46% from the field.
Iguodala makes more threes and shoots a higher percentage from deep compared to Smith.
They both suck at the FT line (about 60% over the last 2 seasons).
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Jose & Iggy! I like it!
Iguodala has greatly improved his outside shooting, especially from 3. He can knock down that shot enough for the defence to respect it.
If you give him open looks, he can sure make damage from deep. You should also keep in mind that he's a solid ballhandler and passer, and can set other people up (like Calderon and Knight).
This approach worked well for Rodney Stuckey so I see no reason not to simply hand Brandon Knight a secure starting gig and not entertain any other options irregardless of how he performs or improves.
To bad Joe doesn't have a hall 'o famer to trade away to let BK know that 'he's the man'.
I don't want my three position dependent on open looks, especially when Knight and Stuckey are on the floor. It will take much to sigh him as he give up 16M this year and he is pushing 30.
The case for Iguodala:
Counterpoint: The Pistons should pursue Andre Iguodala - Detroit Bad Boys
OK, now I'm convinced on this side of the argument. If we're going to make a mistake, I'd rather it be to get too defensive and have offensive struggles than the other way around. At least defense creates turnovers and easy buckets to partially make up for the lack of spacing in the half court set.
One way to fix the spacing issues with Monroe and Drummond is to have a PG that penetrates like crazy.
For instance (I know this won't happen):
In that scenario, our bigs pack the paint, but we could pull Monroe to the high post (where he can pass and is a serious threat to drive), and run constant PnRs with Bynum and Drummond. Any PG that plays like Bynum can drive our primary offense through that 2-man game with Drummond and the rest of the guys can either get very open 3's or slash.
It may not be a standard offense, but when you have bigs like Drummond and Monroe, you might be able to invent something better than standard. Monroe is a unique passer, driver, and finisher with above average offensive rebounding ability (due to his hard nose and sticky hands). Drummond is a vacuum cleaner on alley oops and an absolutely devastating offensive rebounder.
Iggy is smart enough and versatile enough to find plenty of ways to score in that mix.
We don't necessarily need 3pt shooters to create spacing. You only need to look at a player like TD or Bosh to realise that an 18-20ft jumpshoot can open up very important lanes aswell.
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