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Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by AI IS GOD, Feb 25, 2009.
Joe needs to take a vacation and come with a fresh mind. Maybe that'll bring his brilliance back
Hopefully he doesn't pick Orlando as his destination.
OK, let's say he does. Why? He either hired a lousy coach or picked up lousy players. So we go back to which does he think it is? If it's the coach...he fires him. If it's the players...he trades them. Either way he needs to correct the problem, right?
What if he realizes that he picked a bad coach and has been telling that bad coach exactly what to do and if he fires that coach, that fired coach will tell everybody that Joe was really the coach and also has a cocaine problem?
Just got this from the DBB board: Howcome with almost the same players as last years the Pistons right now are a .500 team. You think Billups had that much influence or is it combo of factors (MC/AI trade/aging)
We won playoff games without Billups last year. This core is one of the tightest, least selfish in the league. They like eachother. They play unselfishly. They try hard. This year, we have again had a very good health record. No excuses for MC. Of all the variables, he is by far the biggest. The players gave him a chance and he blew it. They went along with his decisions (starting Stuckey, starting Amir, starting Kwame, starting Dyess, benching Rip, not going zone, going zone, playing Herrmann, benching him for a month, ending the Kwame experiment for good, playing him 2 games later, etc.).
I don't think MC would take a cheap shot like that....saying that Joe was really the coach.
I agree with the main point here. But I do wonder, at this point in time, what we even mean anymore when we talk about "the core." I know that historically we've meant Sheed, Rip, Chauncey and Tay. So now I suppose Sheed, Rip and Tay. But are they really the same three players they were as part of the core? I'm not sure we can meaningfully use the term "core" any longer, if by core we mean a group of players with a certain set of complementary abilities and a cohesive attitude.
If we wanted to, we could put a team on the floor that won playoff games last year as a unit. Stuck/Rip/Tay/Dyess/Sheed. If they were good enough to win in the playoffs, then you would think that they could beat a .500 team at home in the regular season with AI coming off the bench. But I'm not sure they can. And the reason is because they are poorly coached.
So do you mean that when you say "core" you are referring to those five players?
Yes. But mainly Rip/Tay/Dyess/Sheed. The vets who have been here through some major battles. They have high familiarity with each other and are like family members on the court. Stuck and Max are a little removed from that.
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