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  1. TaS

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    The Pistons only have 3 players on the team with PERs over 15:
    Drummond- 20.4
    Monroe- 18.4
    Villanueva- 16.7

    And 2 of those are bench players!

    Singler is only at 13.1 and is below Maxiell's career average.
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    If he can be the second PF getting spot minutes behind a 40mpg Monroe in the future, I don't mind keeping him if he plays those 8 minutes the way he has this season and if it isn't for much money.

    Unfortunately too many ifs for this situation and one of two things will happen - we will pay him too much, or someone else will
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    Could we trade Maxiel now while his stock is high? Or, would there be no takers?
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    BallDon'tLie All-Star 3x Fantasy Champion

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    His highlights from the Cav's game should be enough to get a good deal by themselves.
    ...and he's an expiring contract.

    I gotta believe that he can help a team like Philly, Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, Golden State, Minnesota, Dallas, others...
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    I wonder if Joe D remembers how to make a trade. Maybe Joe D has an NBA Trade app, but the "Send Trade Proposal" button on his Blackberry is broken.
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    BallDon'tLie All-Star 3x Fantasy Champion

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    Yeah.
    Joe's been living off of the glory of the Ben Gordon deal for long enough,
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    Mogilny All-Star Forum Donor

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    Watch Simmons buy Bengo stock at 6.53:

  8. TaS

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    To quantify Maxiell's value trend, here is some quick math:

    The NBA as a whole paid $1.94M for each W last year.

    Maxiell has 1.0 win share through 19 games this year. That trends to 82/19 x 1.0 = 4.316 win shares for the season.

    4.316 x $1.94M = $8.37M.

    So, if Maxiell continues to play at the level that he's been playing at and he continues to get the same minutes per game for the rest of the season, then his "fair" salary would be $8.37M vs his actual salary of $5M. +$3.4M value.



    For Charlie V, he has 0.2 WS, but he's only played in 9 games. That translates into 9 times his current WS, or 1.8 WS to be expected for a full season.

    1.8 x $1.94M = $3.5M vs his current salary of $8.0M. ($4.5M) value.


    The tough part is that Charlie has another year after this one, so the receiving team would have to absorb almost $9.0 in wasted value with him. They'd either have to get that in return by taking on a player who is outperforming his rookie contract or they'd have to have a different expected WS value for him.
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  9. TaS

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    They should drop the stock analogy because they are just basically saying who is doing well and who isn't. If this were real stock trading, they would have bought Apple stock this summer and they would have sold all their bank stock in 2010. The key is to buy the stock before the earnings hit.
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    Maybe he's confused because they call it a transfer now instead of a trade?
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    Horrible game, really. Only bright spots were Andre and Rodney. Tayshaun as well. Maggette was awful. Kyle, Greg and Brandon too. Not going to win with all those fellows struggling.

    Coach may want to consider starting Andre, too.

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