Away Chicago Bulls Wednesday Jan 23 2013

Discussion in 'January 2013' started by roscoe36, Oct 29, 2012.

  1. Walter

    Walter All-Star Forum Donor

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    Relying on Stuckey single handedly taking down one of the best defensive teams in the league in the 4th quarter probably was not the best game plan.
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    Its actually quite funny, I find myself actually hoping to see Chaz out there for 20mpg now, because he is a freaking good 3pt shooter.

    The only way this team moves forward with both Dre and Moose is with 3pt specialists at every other position. Its exactly how Dwight Howard and the Magic ended up in the Finals and it is so simple.
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    Not picking on you with this question but........WHO ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GO IN THE CLUTCH? The idea that a team can execute it's offense and get good shots is really not true. Games come down to a "go-to" guy beating the defender 1 on 1. Also we did execute down the stretch and that execution led to our leading scorer getting WIDE OPEN looks from the free throw line, but................
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    The bulls clutch shot was a broken play and a layup with a touch foul tacked on.

    Ignoring all my strategic frustrations, the vibe of the game was pretty cool. It was playoff like in defensive effort both ways and the arena was packed and extremely loud. First game like that i remember seeing all year. Will be good when the palace returns to that and drummond dominates on a nightly basis.
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    I doubt the Pistons have scored 20 pts total this season coming out of timeouts.
  6. Ernie the Slow Adult

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    This game really riled us up. It's rare to have so many of us angry at rotations/coaching at once.
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    No, 3 outside shooters are enough. Your two bigs do not have to be able to shoot an outside shot if, especially if one of them takes mega attention by being a threat to get the offensive board. Every time Monroe and Drummond are paired up, we have, instead of any kind of shooting ability out there, Stuckey and Bynum in the backcourt. And usually Tay at small forward. In other words, coach surrounds these two with zero help for spreading the floor.

    We should be starting Knight, Daye, Singler, Monroe, Drummond. In this situation, when Monroe drives, he has three shooters to kick out to, and Drummond to pass to inside if anyone foolishly takes their attention off him.
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    Spot on. Although I would swap English for Daye to give him some burn or have him as first sub.
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    I cant disagree more about 1 of the bigs needing to be able to hit a 12-15 footer to keep the defender honest. If Monroe cant keep his defender guarding him he will not have anywhere to drive and attack as you are assuming he will. The defender will continue to sag off of him and this will hinder any penetration and offensive rebounds. I will argue this point til death, even with our 2004 team we had a threat at every position except Ben which would be our Drum on this team, hell I would even venture that CV with drum and knight, daye/ eng and sing would be a lethal force on offence because no one will leave cv alone at the arc and he is an ultimate stretch 4...unfortunately he is a defensive liability .
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    I wonder what Frankie tell the players. No points coming out of timeouts and we start 0-17 coming out of every offseason. Didn't the Nets have a start like that too under Frank The Tank?
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    Another weird stats : This is now 11 loss after blowing a double-digit lead. With a win for half of it, Pistons will be in Playoff picture. Most of the time, teams came back after big runs that we can't manage to stop (like the run with Nate Robinson vs Bulls).
    It seems like we can't adjust defensively we teams accelerate the tempo.
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    That's because Frank is either:
    - incapable of seeing the momentum change and reacting early enough; or
    - he does notice early enough and has no one on the bench playing well enough; or
    - he does notice early enough and is too scared to use someone who has not played in a while
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    Right. We advocating for him to return to form as an offensive player. Sometimes that will meaning taking open jumpers, but more often it will be putting himself into a position to work around the basket. Right now he's not doing that, and he used to do it a lot.
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    Yes, he had a really bad start his last year in NJ.
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    I think it was something like 0-16 or 0-17. He was fired just after
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    Isn't it better to have a slow start and a strong finish than vice-versa?
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    Yes, nothing beats a 3-24 start to make sure the playoffs is out of reach and then .500-ball make sure the chances of a high draft pick is out of reach.
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    That's just having a young and not very talented team. As much as I hate watching Knight and Monroe play (I just don't like their styles) they're still very inexperienced, I believe that pretty soon they will be able to secure wins once they build a double digit lead.
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    Well, the problem is if Stuckey is going to be our "go-to-clutch-dude", then we need to roll out a lineup that gives Stuckey the best chance to succeed. What is Stuckey's strength? Driving to the lane hard for a layup, hoping for a and1 play. If there are fewer players in the lane, the greater the chances are for success. When you have no credible mid-to-long range shooters in the game, he ends up driving into traffic. We had Knight-Stuckey-Prince-Max-Moose to finish the game. If we had CV & Drummond in the game instead of Max & Moose, using Stuckey as the go-to guy might have worked.

    That being said, Stuckey is the worst kind of go-to guy you can have. It is pretty much a given that the clutch player is going to get double-teamed. Which means, someone is wide open. Your clutch player needs to be able to recognize that and find the open man. Stuckey, by design, is not capable of doing that.

    Besides, I wasn't referring to only the last few plays. The entire last 6-7 minutes of the game was the same tragic Stuckey roadshow.
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    Actually....on the play that tied the game up......out of a time out.....Stuckey actually did hit the WIDE OPEN Jason Maxiel. I was SHOCKED, shocked I tell you! And I believe the Bulls were too. Now with that said, as far as I'm concerned, Stuckey can't get out of here fast enough. Unfortunately our other "Go-To" guy is none other than......Tayshaun Prince. :frusty:

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