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Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by TheeTFD, Feb 28, 2011.
Chauncey's got game...........
What I found here is some of you can't deal with success or failure. Which means you can't handle extremes. And the huge middle is just room for rumination.
Keeping Score: Billups's Quiet Effectiveness - NYTimes.com Nice write up about our former star...
In his first season in Detroit, Billups finished second on the team to Ben Wallace with 9.9 win shares, which is an estimate of the number of wins contributed by a player, and averaged a team-leading 0.204 win shares per 48 minutes. The Pistons advanced to the Eastern Conference finals for the first time in 12 years, where they lost to the Nets in four games. This was the first of six consecutive trips to the conference finals for Detroit; Billups went on to make a seventh consecutive appearance in the conference finals with Denver in 2009. From 2000-1 through 2009-10, Billups was perhaps the most underappreciated star in the N.B.A. During that period, Billups contributed an estimated 104.6 wins to his teams, the fifth-highest total in the league. But Billups was not just racking up win shares because he was playing a lot of minutes. He was also one of the N.B.A.’s more efficient players, generating wins at a rate of 0.198 per 48 minutes. That figure placed Billups seventh among the 116 players who played at least 15,000 minutes in that time period. ------------ Don't quite get the "win share" thing. But anybody that knows BB knows CB is effective. ------------ However the NYKs are struggling a little now, Cavs stole a game last nite. Cavs have been focused of late.
Anyone see the Cavs v. Knicks game? Landry Fields line was great.
We've reminisced about Billups' past, but what about this year? 2011 Season to date True Shooting Percentage (a measure of efficiency): 1) Tyson Chandler: .700 2) Nene Hillario: .673 3) Chauncey Billups: .636 4) Ray Allen: .628 T4) Arron Afflalo: .628 6) Drik Nowizki: .624 7) Amir Johnson: .619 8) Dwight Howard: .618 T8) Paul Pierce: .618 10) Steve Nash: .617 First of all, Chandler is an efficient dude. Secondly, it's amazing that Billups is still 3rd in the league in this stat, and behind 2 seven footers, one of whom was the beneficiary of Billups' passes. Thirdly, it's depressing to think that we could currently have 3 of the league's most efficient offensive players on our squad right now... with 2 of them specializing in defense.
Depressing. We've always known Piston cast-offs were stars in the making.
Not to mention that Ray Allen could have been had for Rip.
Wouldn't that be soooo disrespectful of Ray Allen. Basicly saying Rip is better than you. If you were R. A. wouldn't you sulk ? Hey Ray we want to take your champion caliber peers from you and send you to Det. They have a floundering org. that a seasoned pro like you could help. But say good-bye to this years championship run. And any other championship season in the near future. I'd be like sending Tay to the Clips.
It would be like sending Tay to the Clips only if he signed with a good team this off-season first.
Knicks 7-10 since the trade. D'antoni can't figure what to do. CB must be subverting D'antoni's up-tempo offence. Meanwhile the Nuggs are cruising.
The Nuggs offense slowed down after CB left. The PG isn't the only one that dictates tempo.
Denver holding opposition to 91.8 points in five games since big trade Nuggets go on the defensive during post-All-Star hot streak By Aaron J. Lopez, Nuggets.com, 3-3-11 Related Images For what seemed like the 86th time in a 48-hour span, Nuggets coach George Karl was asked to explain his team’s newfound commitment to defense. Karl responded by putting a finger to his lips. “Shhhhh,” he said. Uh, coach? Hate to break it to you, but the cat’s out of the bag. The Nuggets have celebrated a new era of equality by sharing the ball, taking intelligent shots, and minimizing their turnovers, which in turn has led to better results at the defense end of the floor. In essence, efficient offense has contributed to excellent defense. “We’re committed and focused pretty much at both ends of the court,” Karl said. “The defensive end of the court has never been our forte. I think you’re seeing a team that can be not only a good offensive team, but it might become a special defensive team.” In five games since completing a three-team, 13-player trade on Feb. 22, the Nuggets have held the opposition to an average of 91.8 points, compared to 105.2 points in 57 games prior to the trade. The trend continued Wednesday night when Denver limited the Charlotte Bobcats to .367 shooting in a 120-80 rout at the Pepsi Center. “We’re talking (to each other) and just getting after it,” Nuggets forward Kenyon Martin said. “Defense is all about effort. Guys get it in their mind to defend and that’s what we’re doing.” Martin and guard Arron Afflalo have been known as Denver’s top defenders, but newcomer Wilson Chandler is quickly earning rave reviews from the team’s coaching staff. Not only is Chandler a strong one-on-one defender, but he is excellent at reading the play and providing weakside help for his teammates. What would have been an easy basket for the opposition early in the season is now a contested shot that might lead to a four-point swing for the Nuggets. “Wilson has made five or six defensive plays that we’ve haven’t seen in a year or two here,” Karl said. “It’s something that can be contagious. Other guys will start trying to make more defensive plays.” Chandler blocked three shots and had three steals against the Bobcats. He also was Denver’s leading scorer with 16 points as seven Nuggets finished in double figures. Ty Lawson posted his first career double-double with 14 points and 10 assists, while Nene, Chris Andersen and J.R. Smith added 14 points apiece. Moving the ball, defending the rim and pushing the pace, the Nuggets shot a season-high .608 from the field and had a season-high 34 assists on 45 field goals. As the lead went from 20 to 30 to 40 in the second half, Karl couldn’t help but smile as he took it all in from the bench. “It was kind of a perfect storm in a lot of ways,” he said. “Defensively we were solid. Offensively, it was a pretty performance. The passing, the spacing, the unity of the team, it was really fun to see it come together.” The Nuggets (36-26) won for the fifth time in six games and continued to solidify their position in the Western Conference. Denver has risen from seventh in the West to fifth since the trade that sent Carmelo Anthony and Chauncey Billups to the New York Knicks. While the post-Melo success might be surprising to some people, it’s not a surprise to those inside the Denver locker room. “From a player’s perspective, I knew we had talent,” Afflalo said. “I know the type of personalities we have in here and the pride we’ll take on the defensive end of the court and executing offensively. I’m happy. I think we’re right where we should be.” The next eight games will give the Nuggets a chance to erase all doubt about their ability to compete and win in the playoffs. Starting tonight in Utah, they have seven road games, including a four-game trip to New Orleans, Atlanta, Miami and Orlando from March 14-19. “It’s going to be a good test for us,” Lawson said. “Can’t wait for the opportunity --------- From 105 to 92 that's huge.
The Knicks are 3-10 with CB on the floor and 4-2 without him since the trade if I recall the numbers correctly.
Weird but awesome. Knicks must suck, all day long.
This really isn't working out very well for NY. They got bamboozled. Nuggs are looking '04 Pistons-like for sure. Lots of good players taking pride in defense and peaking in the 2nd half of the season after a trade.
The Nuggs are in decent shape financially moving forward too. The only bad contract that they'll have after this season is Al Harrington's @ a little less than 6 mil per year for the next 4 years. They have some pretty good trade pieces (contracts & desireable players) to work with as well. The Nuggets have a pretty good chance to build something in the West as the teams at the top are poised to fade in the coming years.
The timing seems to be perfect. They are closing in on the peak as the Spurs, the Mavs and the Lakers is due a generation change. Haven't they got a bunch of decent picks too? Some mid 1st rounders and stuff like that? I like their future if they manage to resign Nene at a decent price. It would be pretty cool if two small market teams like Denver and Oklahoma dominated the west for a few years.
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