At Orlando Jan. 21st, 7:00 PM

Discussion in 'January 2008' started by Dlev59, Jan 20, 2008.

  1. TaS

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    Stuckey, Hayes, and Bresec are killing him.

    This was another game where are starters beat theirs, and our bench lost.


    If we would have managed to win that game, then we would have been really pumped about the following:

    Sheed with a season high in rebounds... and against DHo! And 5 steals to go with it.
    Chauncey and Rip draining super clutch shots. Good to see they still got it.
    Tay broke out of his shooting slump.
    Maxiell made all his dunks and was rebounding well.
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    TaS, is this quote for real? I just noticed it.
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    I noticed that Cleveland is only 6 games back. If the Cavs come back to take the division, Flip will definitely be done as Pistons coach, I believe, and possibly before the playoffs. If the Pistons go into the playoffs seeded behind the Cavs, I would much rather have somebody else coaching this team for the postseason.

    I don't think Flipper is a bad coach; he's just not right for the Pistons.
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    Losing the division is something that Flip will not allow to happen. He'd play the starters 48 mpg first.
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    6 games is a lot to make up against a healthy Pistons team. No matter what Flip does, that will not happen.
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    This needs to be sent to Amir, his agent or his people, printed off and then they go in to Dumars office and challenge him on it. I know he was injured back in October and that may have contributed to a few DNP's but that was then and this is now and with the team struggling, you need to tap all of your resources to see what can be done to turn it around. Why continue to play others who may be struggling. This is the time to experiment while you still have the second best record in the league. Activate Samb and put Fabio or Hermman in street clothes...and then put him and AJ in the line up!!! Talk about confusing the opposition with long arms and blocks!!
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    The Cavs have trimmed 4.5 games off in the last 3 weeks...and we still have 12+ weeks to play
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    Is it possible that Flip isn't playing Amir because of his poor academic record?

    I know last year the theory for not playing Amir was that we were hiding him.

    What is it this year?
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    This was the tough part of our schedule though. And Flip is "developing" the bench.

    Look how easy our April schedule is:
    @Min
    NJ
    @Mia
    NY
    @Philly
    Wash
    Tor
    Min
    @Cle

    No back to backs.
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    Can't blame this loss on Tay.
    How about CB with 3 extra steps before draining that tre.
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    That was cold-blooded. Van Gundy said he knew it was going in before he shot it.

    I thought the bench / starter mix wasn't too bad for this game. There was only one very short stint in the fourth when there weren't at least two starters on the floor with the bench. All five starters were in for four stints at +6, -2, +9, and -1. Unfortunately the mix of starters and bench players didn't work as well as Orlando went on 9-0, 9-1, and 6-1 runs with bench players in the game.

    Still, the Pistons generally don't win when they turn the ball over - ten in the first half (only one in the second, but by then they were down). And they hardly ever win with only 40% of made baskets on assists (average 62%). The ball didn't move and neither did the players, and they become easier to defend when that happens.

    Still, for all that, without a rim to backboard to hoop last second shot it would have gone into overtime and I like the Pistons chances in that scenario. One more hoop anywhere along the way and things are a lot rosier today.
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    That was cold-blooded. Van Gundy said he knew it was going in before he shot it.
    Qoute DBA
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    Where does he get the sack to cheat like that?
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    I am with you on this one TaS as these do look like easy wins on paper, but so did these the past 9 days:
    1/12 3 point lucky win at sub 500 team Bobcats
    1/13 24 point loss to sub 500 team Knicks
    1/15 14 point win over Raptors
    1/18 7 point loss to sub 500 team Kings
    1/19 16 point loss to sub 500 team Bulls
    1/21 2 point loss to our perrenial whipping boys Magic

    I know there were a couple of back to backs here, but considering who we were playing our record should have been at least 6-0 or 5-1, instead of 2-4.

    I am just hoping that when that "easy" schedule rolls around in April, our starters aren't already burned out ala the spring of 2006 and 2007 and our youngsters aren't still trying to find their game......:stirthepot:[​IMG]
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    Tayshaun is the most overglorified player on the Pistons. He's a fraud. Nice staying on your man; I guess that's too much to ask for 3.9 seconds. Instead he was mismatched on Rip.

    Pansy.

    Pansy.

    Free Ron Artest.
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    Prince and Rip had 41 points and Rashard and Turk had 42. We were hurting them too.

    Overall, we actually had more FG's than Orlando. Just got beat on the FT line.
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    Did the ankle injury actually set him back that much? Or, did the plan change since last summer?
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    Dumars should have said, "Amir, just sign this contract please. I promise that there will be no DNP's for you this year, provided that you don't sprain an ankle, and that you have a complete understanding of what Flip is trying to do here, and that you verbally communicate on the court with your teammates, and that you show consistency, and that you maintain the highest rebounding and blocked shot rate on the team without fouling."

    Then nobody here would be questioning the mixed signals that are coming from the orgainization. The terms would have been laid out, and Amir would clearly not be holding up his end of the bargain.

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