Discussion in 'October 2010' started by roscoe36, Oct 15, 2010.
I was there, and nobody was talking BB!
Whatchoo talkin bout, Willis? Get in here!
Stuckey, Rip, Summers, CV, JMAX to start 2nd.
Villanueva misses 3. Rip gets called for foul.
Webser, Brewere, Tolliver, Pekovic, Telfair.
Over and back on Minny.
Summers takes offensive charge from Pekovic.
We miss. We foul. Stuckey.
Telfair is fouled. 2 on Stuck.
JMAX blocking foul
Monroe back in for JMAX
They miss both.
Summers, Wilcox, Monroe, Hamilton, Stuckey. Rip has shot blocked.
Pekovic is fouled by Monroe.
Makes both. 29-22
Monroe drives, lost OB.
Love in for Tolliver.
Webster hits 3 after Rip falls down.
Stuckey hits shot.
Pekovic gets layin after Telfair penetrates.
Wilcox misses off fadeaway move.
They miss, Monroe loose ball foul. 31-27 TO
Well the 2nd unit really came in and stunk up the joint. Stuckey, Rip and Wilcox were just awful.
We have Bynum, Rip, Summers, Monroe, and Wilcox in. We are fouling twice a minute, throwing the ball way, etc. Very little right.
Bynum to Gordon who is in now. CV in too. We miss, Darko digs out bound
Webster misses. Love fights bound from Gordon and puts it in while falling down, and gets fouled.
Villanueva, Gordon, Daye, Villanueva, and Monroe in now. Our starting unit tonight.
We throw it away yet again. 3 sec on them.
Daye misses 3. Villanueva gets bound, loose ball fall on them.
CV hits 3 35-38
Love hits hook shot.
Wallace and Tay taking night off. Again, TMAC will not play until opening night.
Bynum throws it away.
Daye got burnt.
Webster misses 3. Love bounds. Darko misses. We bound. Foul on Webster.
Monroe hits first ft. and 2nd Darko sits. Kostakoufos in
They toss it away, but steal it back.
Webster hits 3
Gordon throws it away
Telfair misses. Daye bounds. CV dunks
Webster threw it away
20 sec TO
Monroe misses at buzzer. We are down 43-49 at half.
I get the sense that this team is going to be wildly inconsistent especially if the team trades or their are injuries to Tay and Ben Wallace and Rip. We are really young otherwise.
Thoughts on the first half:
Monroe is going to struggle this season, he'll be OK but the game is too fast and the opposition too strong for him right now. He has turnover issues as a result. He'll be OK, but don't look for him to be on the All-Rookie team.
Ben Gordon is better than Rip and deserves to be the starting SG, but Rip will pout something awful if asked to come off the bench, HE NEEDS TO GO!
Daye can play, but still has a ways to go, he'll have about 35-40 GREAT games this season, 15-20 awful ones and 15-25 OK games. But he looks to score the ball.
CV needs a very short leash, that guy is either Good or awful, no in between.
the team struggled mightily with the Rip/Stuckey backcourt as they always seem to do.
The defensive tandem of CV and GM is anything but a defensive tandem, they're very weak on the interior.
We're going to miss JJ.
Let 'em struggle, let 'em learn, let 'em grow. Rip, Tay, and Wallace are not a part of this teams future. When Daye, JJ and Monroe put it all together Rip, Tay and BenW won't be anywhere around, let them go so these young guys can take their lumps and get better together.
3rd starting. Same starters
Daye gets a solid block.
Villanueva misses 3
Johnson to Love, to Darko, misses, CV bounds
Monroe turns it after pass inside to him from Gordon.
Bynum hits one.
Ridnour with it, to love, Johnson, Beasly, Darko. Daye steals, but not clear steal. Darko gets it back but shot clock violation
Gordon cuts to basket, misses
They miss. Daye bounds
Love nails 3
Gordon nails one back.
Love misses layup. Daye bounds. We fast break, Bynum misses despite good move but is fouled.
1st down. and 2nd
foul on Monroe, fouling Koufos
I don't mind the idea of this team taking their lumps - but I don't want it to be because we're playing helter-skelter BB.
split. Gordon to Monroe, to Gordon, misses. CV puts in O bound.
They miss. Koufos rebound. Johnson hits.
Foul on Daye, count the bucket
and completes 3 point play
Love makes drive
CV hits runner
TO 6 to go in 3rd
Daye shoots and scores over Beasley
Beasley misses, Daye plays good D
Daye hits over Beasley again.
CV misses 3
Love hits a 3
Didn't Daye just hit two in a row.
Gordon tosses it away. They score
61-67 we split pair
Webster hits over Daye
Daye misses finger roll
JMAX in with a wrapped knee
Foul on Daye
Daye, Maxiell, Stuckey, Hamilton, Villanueva
Webster, Koufor, Tolliver, Johnson, Telfair
JMAX could not handle lob, comes up limping a bit.
Telfair misses. Daye gets his 8th bound
Rip shoots short.
Tolliver misses 3
No shoot around today. Arrived today for game.
Daye gets another bound.
Tolliver draws a whistle on Stuck. 5th
They miss. JMAX kicks it out of bounds.
Koufos hits. 61-71 End of quarter
Webster misses, but they put in bound. No, we can't bound.
Summers, Wilcox, Stuckey, Jason Maxiell, Daye
Pekovic misses, but is fouled.
Bobcats tomorrow night. Stuck forces inside, no basket but draws foul
Misses first. Makes
We knock it away. Summers misses
Pekovic bodied by Wilcox. 3 sec call
Kickout by Telfair.
Stuckey misses, Wilcox tap no good
Brewer hits out of scramble
9 to go
It's looking like this could be a long season. I think we'll have some really good moments, and I think we're going to really enjoy watching the core guys for the future develop as the season goes along - Daye, Monroe, Stuckey. But Daye and Monroe are going to have growing pains, especially Monroe. It will take this group a large portion of the season to start to get chemistry and for the young guys, esp. Monroe, to adjust to their roles and to the league.
Man, we are almost down 20 now.
Monroe back in for Wilcox
Bynum misses, but Summers slams it back in and draws the foul
Pekovic powers it in
Bynum misses 3
3-15 on 3's now
Tolliver hits 3
Monroe makes on a drive in
Bynum fouled, makes both
Telfair fumbles. Summers misses slam.
Summers fouled while in post
hayward makes 3 89-72
Bynum fakes out Telfair, then throws the ball away.
91-76, 4 to go
Bynum just made 2. Summers fouls.
Daye blocks, but is called for foul.
Daye, Summers, Bynum, Diogu, and Vernon Hamilton finishing out this one.
Ellington fouls. TO
In Daye we have a Robin with no Batman. In Monroe we have an NBA caliber PF/C but I don't know how good he'll be, him making the all-star team would be stretch, now he can get better, I just don't think his ceiling is very far away from where he is now. Stuckey..............if he's some sort juggernaut coming off the bench (we're good) but as long as he's starting for this team we're in trouble. A future frontline of Daye-Monroe-JJ could be very good, very long, very skilled and very solid, if they're playing with some sort of all-star backcourt.
Austin Daye worked the window Wallside style for 11 boards, capping off an 18 point effort - a refreshing stat line.
Rodney Stuckey had 5 fouls in 11 minutes - C'mon, Stuck!
The PF.com chat was a blast, as always. (I can certainly vouch it is the definitive place to be for the duration of all Piston games)
Separate names with a comma.