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  1. explosivity

    explosivity First Round Draft Pick

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    Very untrue Max in that panic attacks can last from just a few minutes to hours if they repeatedly occur making it seems like it seem like its a prolonged panic attack. I can almost guarantee that it is not heart related due to the fact I know they ran a great deal of tests on his heart such as an ekg, echo cardiogram, blood tests, enzyme tests, blood pressure monitoring, stress test, vo2 max test, and holter monitoring for the 2 days he was under observation for a prior episode.Panic attacks are such that the symptoms can be so intense that they can mimic a heart attack, sycope (fainting), and it is not uncommon for people to even feel paralysis for short perods of time. It can happen.....

    There is no real tsst for panic disorder only psycoloigcal screening and treatment. The really good thing is that panic disorder is not even in the least life threatening and I say again it can be controlled well by psychological treamtment/medication. If this is the case then Stuckey will be just fine and may even be back at the end of the season if they rule out any other causes for his episode.


    Pistons: Rodney Stuckey 'doing well' after collapse on bench in Cleveland | - MLive.com
     
  2. Ernie the Slow Adult

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    I think his 2 handed to shove to the back of LeBron last night as well as his many chops at airborne players is outside the lines of decorum.

    Those are not hard fouls or an instance of 2 players colliding in the air. I would have swung at him last night if I was playing pick-up.

    It may not be malicious on his part, it may just be another instance of how poor his instincts are.

    I might just be a maniac also. :)
     
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    Thanks for the explanation. I was not questioning the nature of if it was a panic attack or not as much as the typical, sweep it under the rug, response from Piston management on this. Obviously it was a big deal ( National tv or not as Kander eluded ) and it scared us all.
     
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    Stuckey going down last night took all the energy out of the game for me, and I think for most Pistons fans and players. That was sickening to watch.

    I'll bet Stuckey is out for a few games at least. Whatever's going on with him has GOT to be diagnosed, and that may take a lot of time. I cannot imagine that specialists all around the country won't be consulted. Stuck's history with stuff like this makes this a "House" problem -- that t.v. doctor who diagnoses the strangest cases. But there has to be a physiological explanation for the occasional cutoff of blood/oxygen to Stuckey's brain.

    If Stuckey's out for any significant time, I see no chance that we'll win any games. It's obvious that he's the only guard we have that can run this team (with Bynum still dealing with his injuries, he's just about useless). That's great for ping pong balls, and maybe it'll result in more minutes for Daye.

    But if Stuckey's career is going to be interrupted, in a worst case scenario, the Pistons will be set back years in their rebuilding.
     
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    Having Gordon defend James is insane.

    Well put Lee. I hope he's ok too.
     
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    If he's got some sort of blood sugar level imbalance that caused this, it would also explain why he runs out of gas in the second half. Maybe it's not his weight or conditioning but something wrong with the way his body regulates the blood sugar.

    Hope he's ok. And I hope they figure out exactly what it was.

    If I was Q, I'd have him sit out the rest of the season. We ain't making the playoffs anyways. Give some burn to the rookies and start Gordon at the 1.
     
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    He was lucky that this was an easy shove. Regardless, it does (as so many other lazy fouls he comments) point out exactly your correct perception. He has no clue toward any form of awareness at what conditions he needs for his body in response. He approaches it like a 6th grade player where slapping means closing a distance. His over the back slap on James was equally embarrassing.

    One of the way you can cure this is by understanding how your body placement determines opportunities for correct body defense. Tying his hands behind his back and working out numerous drills will teach him body positioning and allows him to understand foot coordination (which is the poorest I have ever seen on a big man). If he needs a positive role model, then he should look at tapes of Glen Davis...290 pounds of ballerina.
     
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    No, this is the exactly the opposite on what you should not do.

    Providing he is given a clean bill of health, then he needs to get back into the game immediately. He needs to start and continue as things were before. In a sense (and this of course is with the understanding of dealing with panic modes) his off court understanding might take a Jungian frame of reference: understanding your own shadow. Some common form of Yoga might also help.
     
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    Im not sure yoga is the answer...lol... but I can see both sides of the sit out or get back asap fence, it will depend on the condition, treatment and severity of the condition. I can see where if hes spooked? take all the time you need stuckey. and where if he is just unsure of himself? get back into the flow as soon as possible to get the jitters away rather than spend an entire 6-8 months not being sure.
     
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    While I continue to pray for Rodney's health and his family, I can't keep my mouth shut.........If it was a panic attack or some sort of anxiety issue, then this proves that the point guard position completely overwhelms my man. Get ahold to a true to form PG and move him to the bench ASAP!
     
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    Not that I now how severe dehydration looks but my guess is that you feel it coming and as I recall Stuckey looked completely fine after taking those free throws and was small talking to another player as they headed towards the bench. Lets hope it's not too serious and Rod recovers fully. It was pretty scary pictures.

    Regarding if Q should rest him after being cleared by the docs I think not. It should be up to the physicians. I mean, if they clear him he's supposed to be cleared to play and not in danger in any way.
     
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    He looked calm and collected.
     
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    Yeah, I don't think it is anxiety related. Rodney seems to be a pretty loose, calm guy to me. That's how he seemed in warm-ups when I was at MSG a few days ago.
     
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    I agree with Lee. More important things to worry about right now than another loss.

    I had a wakeup about my health a couple years ago, it really puts everything in perspective. I hope Rod is fine, and addresses whatever is going on with him.
     
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    I feel like I've sort of been where Stuckey is at now, since I've dealt with fainting spells before. So the doctors have tested for all the major stuff, and everything came back negative.

    The good news is, now you know it's not anything life-threatening causing your spells.

    The bad new is, you still don't know what is causing your spells.

    It weighed heavy on my mind for many months. I suspect Stuckey may go through the same. I personally will be cutting him some slack for the rest of the season in terms of his quality of play on the court (assuming he will return at some point).
     
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    Playing detective here. Just my experience. If you have been dehydrated recently, your body has its electrolyte balance go off kilter. And its a real touchy thing to get it back right.

    Since Stuckey felt dizzy, and then apparently fainted upon being given water, it sure sounds to me like an electrolyte imbalance.

    What to do? Be cautious. Drink both lots of fluids and lots of food and let your body sort it out. Avoid strenuous prolonged excercise in the meantime.

    Again, just my experience. (Gained from many many years of playing hours long tennis matches and fighting dehydration and electrolyte imbalances often.)
     
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    If you stand up too quick you can get dizzy after a work out.
    But Stuck was sitting down.
     
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    I think this is a reach, my friend. It's pure speculation to say that the two are related in any way.
     
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    I've never seen him look overwhelmed, and he's been in many bigger situations than that one and came out fine. To use this unfortunate situation to try to help your argument for Rodney not being a PG is sad.
     

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