Very interesting stuff. I'd argue that because we leave the defensive rebounding to Dre, we slow our team down and lose a lot of open jumper and transition opportunities. RJ helped cover it up last year by giving us a decent half court P&R game. Without RJ, Dre is a pace killer. You can see this when we played Baynes, who was a + player most of the time, despite lacking Dre's athleticism. All it takes is hustle up and down the court, and setting serious screens to be a plus player for the Pistons at the 5. You can do it with stone hands and ZERO hops. Maybe stone hands and zero hops helps. Baynes plays within himself. You don't see him taking shots outside his range.