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Andre Drummond thread

Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by webz, Jul 2, 2012.

  1. BillLaimbeer

    BillLaimbeer All-Star 5x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    Bullock has proven over the last week or so that he deserves meaningful minutes next season.
     
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    You'll find that Lee has consistently advocated minority positions. LOL
     
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    Hey bub, you posted a LOT in the wrong thread!
     
  4. BillLaimbeer

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    Are you sure you're talking about me? At least I was talking about the Pistons...


     
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    Yes, I am talking about you.

    I don't always talk about the Pistons. I am a multi-dimensional personality.
     
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    pass99 All-Star Forum Donor

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    Yep, let us move on.
    Remember this, the Piston are not so deep that can't shed those contracts (Dre, RJ, get something for Pope) and still make the playoffs next year if...
     
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    Sure we can because we don't have a playoff roster right now.

    You'd be surprised by the marginal rosters that will make the playoffs this year.
     
  8. TaS

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    Well, after finishing 2nd in the league in rebounds for 2 years while sharing the boards with Greg Monroe, Andre just finished his 2nd season in a row with more rebounds than any other player in the NBA, obviously without Monroe. He had 1 more than DeAndre Jordan, but did it in 160 fewer minutes.

    On a possession and/or a minutes adjusted basis, Dre had both the most offensive and the most defensive rebounds.

    On a per possession basis, Dre was 6th in the league in steals, behind only Tony Allen, TJ mcConnell, Kris Dunn, Draymond Green, and K Leonard. His steal rate was identical to John Wall and Ricky Rubio.

    His block rate was about the same as Cousins/ Amir Johnson/ DHo/ Draymond/ Aldridge/ Tristan Thompson, etc.

    For the team as a whole, DET was the 2nd best rebounding team in the league per possession, behind Chicago.


    Crummy year for all, so I'm pointing out some of the good things.


    To-do list for Dre this summer:
    1. Mature into a better leader
    2. Try something radical with the free throws, like underhanded, hook shots, etc.
    3. Get more cut
    4. Work on passing out of the post and re-posting for deeper position
     
  9. Cardono

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    Is the last part about Dre any different from the ending of last year?
     
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    Fully realizing I may be the only person here who believes it, but I'd still rather have kept Monroe and traded Dre when he was still hot for a major player.

    Game 1 of the Milwaukee series Monroe had 14 points, 15 boards, two assists and a steal all in 25 minutes while taking a charge and working hard the entire time.

    Now Monroe is gone and Dre is about as hot on the trade market as Michigan used to be in the winter.
     
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    I'll second that.

    It's funny but a couple of days ago I was thinking that Pistons were a more exciting team with Jennings as a point guard and Smith, Monroe and Drummond upfront than this current team.

    That upfront line used well, could create a nightmare mismatches for many other teams.

    I didn't care much about Morris Cheeks but he was fired after the team won three games in a row in a convincing way.

    I never understood that move. I can speculate and be close to the truth as much as I can be but it's no use now.

    So yes, dba, I agree with you on this.

    P.S. I am not advocating to have kept Smith, I just hate that we are paying him for nothing in return.
     
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  12. TaS

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    You think Monroe is hot on the trade market?
     
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    webz All-Star Snub Administrator 4x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    Haha. Pretty sure his agent will be telling him to opt in for his $17m option next year.
     
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    That's for dba to answer but in my opinion we should have kept Monroe.

    That way we would have at least a young tandem frontline (Drummond/Monroe) with good chemistry between each other.

    Also, in a way they would complement each other's games and have more fun playing.

    Unfortunately, SVG's system doesn't allow it. One thing SVG didn't realize was the fact that Drummond wasn't ready to play with a stretch 4.

    However, I don't think we have a legit power forward at all. SVG exposed Drummond's game in the worst way.
     
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    Van Gundy has got to go!
     
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    He lacks flexibility.

    As a coach you might be enamored with a system and would like to implement it in your team. But, do you have the right players? If you don't, the system is destined to fail.

    What do you do then? You have to adjust. If you cannot adjust you cannot survive. As simple as that.

    That is not only one way, "the right way", to win in basketball.
     
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    I thought passing on Monroe was a great move.
     
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    So did SVG. :)
     
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    Good article on Monroe. It emphasizes in today's NBA, if you're a big, you have to be able to either shoot or command a double-team. Monroe does neither. The fact that Monroe's teammates don't trust him on defense illustrates that he is a liability on that end, as well. Having a guy like the Greek Freak can compensate for mistakes made by teammates defensively.
     
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