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Andre Drummond thread

Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by webz, Jul 2, 2012.

  1. TaS

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    There was just an article about how he abandoned his FT routine (where he slowly walks to half court and then back). He seems ready to get back to it because it allows him to breath, calm down, and de-stress.

    “That’s on me,” Drummond said. “I allowed missed shots to take me off my stroke. So, I’ve got to get back to what I usually do and re-focus.

    "That’s something I’m going to get back to. I got away from that, and it took away from me being relaxed at the line.”​

    While I hate that routine as a spectator because it slows up play so much, it does make sense for a big, strong dude who is out of breath to collect his breath. Not to compare myself to a pro athlete, but I remember that feeling well in HS bball of going to the FT line and the ball sometimes felt like a volleyball when adrenaline is flowing and sometimes like a bowling ball when I was tired. For me personally, that relative weight of the ball was the biggest cause of misses and I'd have to focus on compensating for it. Sometimes it would feel like shooting an intentional air ball short to get it to go. The better shape I got in, the less of an issue that was.

    Dre seems to be in good shape, but isn't exactly cut and has some body fat on him still. It has to be exhausting as hell doing what he is doing in there. I wonder if there is some aerobic fitness component to his FT woes. 3rd hand reports of him making a decent percentage in practice add to my curiosity about that. In today's NBA, he may be better off shedding another 20 lbs.

    Pistons Center Andre Drummond Lost 20 Pounds, Aims to Win Rebound Title Again


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BEit-q3QVI
     
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    You need to see Drummond in person to get a feel for how he is built. He is as fat as a toothpick.

    I thought the league maybe told him to knock off the long walks. I'm not sure why but I've always enjoyed slow FT shooters. Rasheed was very slow as well.
     
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    Maybe the whole team should start doing the long walks as pseudo time outs.
     
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    Long walks as a team seems Iike it would be a good selling point to FA's.
     
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    I'm not certain it would work, but I'm in this boat now. We bet the bank on Dre and we need to feed him so we get beast mode even if we suffer some losses. Let him play out games and practice shooting FTs at the end of the game. Let him get angry if he misses and ejected.

    Andre Drummond beast mode we can build around and I think we just have to go all in at this stage, or blow it up and start again.



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    Upon benching their vets for the remainder of the season (Tyson Chandler included), the Suns have discovered a shorter, yet nearly as effective Drummond, in one, Alan Williams, 2015 undrafted. Carry my fantasy team Alan!
     
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    I still want Chandler for backing up Andre and being anice awesome lockerroom presence. I just have no idea how healthy he is, atm.
     
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    Shouldn't his bank account be 8 digits? His accountant is robbing him.
     
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    Hopefully his Mom is making sure he has money going into a Trust.
     
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    Switching up the beat here

    NBA Defensive Rating Rankings:
    1. Rudy Gobert- 98.2
    2. Andre Drummond- 98.6
    3. Draymond Green- 99.2
    4. Hassan Whiteside- 99.5
    5. Dwight Howard- 100.6
    6. Anthony Davis- 101.1
    7. Kawhi Leonard- 101.5
    8. Kevin Durant- 101.7
    9. Pau Gasol- 101.8
    10. DeAndre Jordan- 102.6
    NBA Defensive Win Shares:
    1. Rudy Gobert- 5.0
    2. Draymond Green- 4.4
    3. Andre Drummond- 4.3
    4. Anthony Davis- 4.3
    5. Hassan Whiteside- 4.2
    6. Kawhi Leonard- 3.7
    7. Kevin Durant- 3.7
    8. Giannis Antetokounmpo- 3.6 (tied with DeAndre Jordan and Russell Westbrook)
     
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    How come Baynes isn't on the list?
     
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    I just cut it off at 10. In DWS, AB is 159th (and 20th for qualifying centers)... but that is a cumulative stat, so his limited playing time is part of the reason for that. He ranks near Brook Lopez, Joakim Noah, Boris Diaw, Kenneth Faried, Al Jefferson, and JaVale McGee.

    For guards, Pope is 8th in the league.

    For forwards, Tobias is 12th and Morris is 15th.


    We rank high at 3 out of 5 of our starting spots and 4 out of 5 if Tobias is included. In this respect, it makes sense that our overall defensive ranking is pretty good.

    Offensive win shares is where we suffer.
     
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    I think it's a typo like when Drummond was left off that best under 25 list by ESPN. Somewhere there's an editor getting an earful.
     
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    Drummond is running with the wrong crowd! No wonder he's listless sometimes. He's probably high on marijuana!
     
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    Since 1980 (37 years), there have only been 15 players to lead the league in rebounds. In parentheses is their Hall of Fame status or probability)

    Moses Malone (100%)
    Bill Laimbeer (26.1%)
    Charles Barkley (99.9%)
    Michael Cage (0%)
    Hakeem Olajuwon (100%)
    David Robinson (100%)
    Dennis Rodman (75.3%)
    Chris Webber (14.6%)

    Dikembe Mutombo (96.9%)
    Ben Wallace (45.3%)
    Kevin Garnett (100%)
    Dwight Howard (99.1%)
    Kevin Love (42.8%)
    DeAndre Jordan (1.4%)
    Andre Drummond (TBD)

    Pretty amazing that 33% of them played for Detroit at some point.

    Interesting note on Michael Cage. He was in a personal duel with Charles Oakley for the rebounding title. In his final game of the year, he needed to get 28 to get the title and he got 30.

    Only 6 players in history have nabbed the rebounding title 4 or more times: Wilt, Rodman, Moses, Dwight, KG, and Rill Russell. Can Dre get into that grouping?
     
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    Worm won the rebounding title 8 consecutive seasons while playing for 3 different teams. That's crazy.
     
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    Forget Sheed, Rodman should be coaching Dre.
     
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    It's crazy how often Drummond is having some ridiculous statistical game and then they show a stat with Rodman having 6 games with more boards.
     

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