Andre Drummond thread

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  1. mikhail1973

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    So is Andre Drummond the second coming of:
    DeAndre Jordan
    JaVale McGee
    Tyson Chandler
    Dwight Howard
    -or is he-
    a BETTER Dwight Howard
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    He' already better than DeAndre Jordan and JaVale McGee. There is a reason neither of them can stay on the floor for more than 25 mpg.

    I believe Chandler is the worst-case senario for Drummond. Big athletic center that got no post-moves, but still affects the games with his defense. Thought, Drummond beat Chandler on everything except Fouls per game and Assists (0,1 margin) per 36 Minutes. And to be honest, ever since Chandler won the DPOY, his defense have been slacking. He was nowhere as good defensively this season as he was the season before.

    I believe Drummond will win a few DPOY before it's all said and done.
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    ...or at the very Worst, a Kwame Brown with hands.
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    He is pretty much an 'in control' Javale McGree aka Pierre McDunk aka Vert City.

    Defensively, he is good, but not Chandler or Dwight Howard good. He has good instincts, but he often makes poor rotations and closes out too much on PnR ball handlers. Sometimes it ends up with Dwyane Wade being stripped, sometimes with open layups.

    Chandler looks bad because he has to cover up Amare Stoudimire or Carmelo Anthony on defense, sometimes both. That isn't an easy job.
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    Probably a lot easier than covering up for Villanueva and Daye, though.
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    If I didn't know any better (and I don't) I'd think you were taking a slight shot.....
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    Daye, maybe. Villenueva. No. BoT is a surprisingly ok 1v1 defender. His lateral is not great and he is prone to jumping (or making a jumping action, he has little vert) on pump fakes. Its his help D that is so appalling. He just gets lost during set plays. Ends up double marking the commentators with Stuckey, or running half court traps on the refs. And the Big Turd was one of our better defensive rebounders.

    I get the feeling that you are starting to know me too well :starwars:

    Lets be honest here, Amare is awful on defense, and Carmelo, compared to his offensive talent, is pathetic on defense. I mean, being a primarily offensive tool is all well and good, but Melo makes Kevin Durant look like Bruce Bowen on crack.
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    Synergy shows the following for the 2 on defense:

    Villanueva: 0.92 ppp on 213 situations.

    Daye: 0.90 ppp on 89 situations with Det
    0.94 ppp on 100 situations with Mem
    (averages to 0.92 ppp)

    So, based on actual data consisting of every defensive possession where their man attempted to score, they were equal.
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    Its hard to compare a wing defender to a post defender, but that is interesting nonetheless.
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    I agree that Melo is a tool.
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    Please do note that the above does not break down how many situations Daye was guarding a small forward, vs. a power forward. And also note, that in Memphis, he was just used as a power forward, which, in my opinion, is the wrong position for him.
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    According to Joe, the new NBA is positionless. Your references to small forward and power forward are like referring to golf clubs as mashies and niblicks.
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