11-12 Season Review

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  1. 2Tough4You

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    18.4 last year.. 18.0 this season, but it surely dropped a whole lot more after his terrible game tonight.
     
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    Wonder what's happened to Stuck........weak stats lately, especially last night.
     
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    Rodney Stuckey's PER over the last 4 seasons:

    2011-12: 17.71, 8th PG in East
    2010-11: 18.46, 4th PG in East
    2009-10: 15.62, 11th PG in East
    2008-09: 14.83, 16th PG in East
     
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    how does that rate at SG?
     
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    2012: 3rd at SG with a 17.71
    2011: 3rd at SG with an 18.46 (ahead of Joe Johnson, Ray Allen, and Rip Hamilton)
    2010: 5th at SG with a 15.62 (edged out JJ Redick)
    2009: 10th at SG with a 14.83 (between Iverson and Flip Murray)
     
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    Considering Stuckey had a PER pushing 20 a couple weeks ago, he's had quite the drop off in a short amount of time.
     
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    Stuckey's last 2 months:

    March: 20.3 ppg, FG 48.9%, 3ptFG 41.4%, 4.8 assists (34.5 minutes)
    April: 10.2 ppg, FG 35.5%, 3ptFG 21.7%, 2.9 assists (25.2 minutes)

    Collider had a very impressive stretch for a while there. I think injuries affected his finish.
     
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    Stuck's career stats are somewhere in the middle of those March vs April numbers.
    I have no reason to believe that after 5 years in the league, he's going to get any better or worse.
    He's not a 9 million dollar a year player.
     
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    Case for him having had a great season: Keep in mind he's 25 years old.

    • 1st on the team in points per minute
    • 2nd on the team in total shooting percentage (.551 vs .563 for Monroe)
    • 1st on the team in ast/tov ratio and 2nd in assist rate (behind only Russell Walker in limited minutes)
    • 3rd in the East in PER for SG's (just reiterating from posts above- this impresses me a ton)
    • 2012 was his highest win share/min year of his career
    • Highest on/off +/- on the team by a humongous margin: the team did +9.7 points better per 100 possessions with him on than off. 2nd closest was +3.6 points.
    • 1st on team in production differential (his production minus his opponents)
    • He guard opponents equally well at the PG and SG position (Opp PERs of 12.0 and 14.0). At PG, Stuck had a PER of 24.9 and at SG, 16.3. He basically destroyed his man. As a team, we had a PER of 11.8 at PG and 12.9 at SG... and those include Stuckey's performance, so we were anemic at whatever position he was not playing and both if he was out of the game.
    • He was 10th in the entire NBA at SG in efficiency. Ahead of him were only the following: Ginobili, Wade, Harden, Kobe, P. George, L. Williams, Joe Johnson, E. Gordon, and Ellis.
    • 8th in assist rate at SG in the NBA.
     
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    If Joe could have signed him to a deal where his contract only counted against the cap in the month of March, we'd be in business.
     
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    Rodney Stuckey, Brandon Knight, and Austin Rivers.....the Pistons future 3-guard version of Isiah/Joe/Vinnie....
     
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    First it was: AI, Rip, Stuckey
    ...Then it was: Rip, Gordon, Stuckey
    ...Then it was: Stuckey Gordon, Knight
    ...Now it'll be: Stuckey, Knight, Jeremy Lamb
     
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    Sadly, this season wasn't bad enough. The Pistons lost out on the opportunity to pick up a stud big and will either have to go with ANOTHER combo guard, a small forward to compete with Tayshaun for playing time for the next four years, or reach for a big that has major question marks.

    They really need an athletic big man to complement Moose, and there aren't any in free agency. Let's hope they get lucky in lotto.
     
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    I was hoping that Rascoe would share his feelings on the season in this thread.
    This has become a Rodney Stuckey thread. I DO wonder what his future holds.
     
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    We haven't lost the lottery yet. If the mega millions thread drew interest at 1 in 176,000,000,000 odds, then 1 in 16 shot at getting a top 3 pick should seem somewhat possible.

    Odds:
    #1 pick: 1.7%
    #2 pick: 2.0%
    #3 pick: 2.4% (so, #1 + 2 + 3 = 6.1%)
    #9 pick: 81.3%
    #10 pick: 12.2%
    #11 pick: 0.4%

    So, I guess it is twice as likely that we drop to the #10 pick than it is than we get a top 3 pick... but the value of 10 vs 9 shouldn't be very different.

    We do have a new owner, so there's always the possibility that Stern rigs it for us.
     
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    The odds say we'll get the #9 pick................
    Piston's luck dictate that we get the #10 pick..................
    PF.com aura will get us the #3 pick..................:)
     
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    ^I'd been playing around with that thing after every loss earlier in the season to keep my sanity with all the losing. Now I avoid it so I don't have to see Zeller/Sullinger at our slot.

    And Rodney looked to Collide a little more tonight as well, perhaps to head off more "Whither Rodney?" articles.
     
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    I played it 5 times tonight and got Sulliger 3 times, Zeller once and Perry Jones once.

    The question is Sullinger another JMax or will he clog the middle like he does with smaller collegians??
     
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    I have a bad feeling about Sullinger.
     
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